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Old 01-09-2009, 05:03 PM
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Hey guys..

I just got a set of rims and tires zr1 17 9/11 from ebay..

they said that they are mounted and balanced.. would they fit my 2000 camaro or do i need to do some mods for them?
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Originally Posted by kov911
Hey guys..

I just got a set of rims and tires zr1 17 9/11 from ebay..

they said that they are mounted and balanced.. would they fit my 2000 camaro or do i need to do some mods for them?
Yes they should fit perfectly...
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thank you...

i will put them tomorrow and see
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just be aware every car is a little diff and you may need to pound you inner wheel well in a little or run a small spacer ....
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Typically you will need an adjustable panhard bar to center the rear. Then possibly you will need to grind down the bump stop and dent in the inner wheelhouse in front of the bump stop.

Firebirds generally have more room than the Camaros.
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hey guys yesterday i tried to put them on and i started with the rear (because i know they're big problem) so i saw that the bump stop gonna rub with the tire (actually it will rip it apart) .....

i want to make them fit the easiest way and cheapest .... for the panhard bar i think i need to wait to buy it ...

if i wanna run a spacer what is the smallest size and will do the job or if i wanna grind the bump stop how much i will do?
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I just cut the bump stop off and then rolled the finder lip and every thing is good now
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Originally Posted by kov911
hey guys yesterday i tried to put them on and i started with the rear (because i know they're big problem) so i saw that the bump stop gonna rub with the tire (actually it will rip it apart) .....

i want to make them fit the easiest way and cheapest .... for the panhard bar i think i need to wait to buy it ...

if i wanna run a spacer what is the smallest size and will do the job or if i wanna grind the bump stop how much i will do?
I am not positive but I think I ground about a 1/4" off of the back side of it. You are just going to have to start grinding and check it every so often.

I would get the panhard NOW.
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I bought my ss with 315's on the back and my car's been lowered so it's not unusual for my tires to rub. However, I would never consider "rolling" my fenders in, not my baby. I've considered getting a set of the 1" spacers but I have no idea how to install them, i guess I just need to check into it a little more.
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Originally Posted by Martin HD-28
I bought my ss with 315's on the back and my car's been lowered so it's not unusual for my tires to rub. However, I would never consider "rolling" my fenders in, not my baby. I've considered getting a set of the 1" spacers but I have no idea how to install them, i guess I just need to check into it a little more.
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Wow! This thread is chock full of bad information.

Don't cut off your bumpstops. Don't grind down your bumpstops. Yes, your car needs them. In your case, your car needs replacements. Get the Z28 bumpstops, not the SS/WS6 style. They're more tapered.

When you run 11" rear wheels, you pretty much have to learn to jack the rear up by the differential, not from the side. This will keep the bumpstops from interfering when you're mounting/dismounting the wheels.

Get an adjustable panhard bar to make sure the rearend is centered. That part was good advice.

Unless you're doing some Dukes of Hazard-style jumps, or your rearend is off-center, your bumpstops won't be a problem.

After you mount them, go for a short drive. Make sure you have both left and right turns on the drive. If they rub the inner fender wells, get out the hammer. I used a 3lb drilling hammer, because it has a large, flat face. You will see the spots where they rubbed. Hit there.

If the outer sidewalls have any marks or cuts in them, you'll need to roll your fender lips. Rent a heat gun and fender roller (search this section, there are a couple people who have them for rent) and take a little at a time. You don't have to roll the lips flat, just angle them up and "curl" the leading edge, to present a rounded surface to the sidewall, rather than an edge.


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so now what i need is just to jack up the car from the rear and they will fit and wont rub with the bumpstops?
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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
Wow! This thread is chock full of bad information.

Don't cut off your bumpstops. Don't grind down your bumpstops. Yes, your car needs them. In your case, your car needs replacements. Get the Z28 bumpstops, not the SS/WS6 style. They're more tapered.

When you run 11" rear wheels, you pretty much have to learn to jack the rear up by the differential, not from the side. This will keep the bumpstops from interfering when you're mounting/dismounting the wheels.

Get an adjustable panhard bar to make sure the rearend is centered. That part was good advice.

Unless you're doing some Dukes of Hazard-style jumps, or your rearend is off-center, your bumpstops won't be a problem.

After you mount them, go for a short drive. Make sure you have both left and right turns on the drive. If they rub the inner fender wells, get out the hammer. I used a 3lb drilling hammer, because it has a large, flat face. You will see the spots where they rubbed. Hit there.

If the outer sidewalls have any marks or cuts in them, you'll need to roll your fender lips. Rent a heat gun and fender roller (search this section, there are a couple people who have them for rent) and take a little at a time. You don't have to roll the lips flat, just angle them up and "curl" the leading edge, to present a rounded surface to the sidewall, rather than an edge.


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Bad info??
It doesn't matter if you are jumping bridges or not, your wheels or tires should never, EVER come in contact with an part of the chassis!!
What do you think happens when you take a turn? Hmm, one wheel will be higher than the other!! So therefor you need to cut down the sides of the bump stop!

Remember that the rear suspension will have a small amount of play so do not do the bare minimum when clearancing!
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Originally Posted by 9t8z28
Bad info??
It doesn't matter if you are jumping bridges or not, your wheels or tires should never, EVER come in contact with an part of the chassis!!
What do you think happens when you take a turn? Hmm, one wheel will be higher than the other!! So therefor you need to cut down the sides of the bump stop!

Remember that the rear suspension will have a small amount of play so do not do the bare minimum when clearancing!
Bump stop is not the same as fender well. The tires rub the fender wells. Not the bump stops.


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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
Bump stop is not the same as fender well. The tires rub the fender wells. Not the bump stops.


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The tire rubs the inner wheelwell and the wheel hits on the bumpstop. I should know since I have the same exact setup on my car now
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Originally Posted by 9t8z28
The tire rubs the inner wheelwell and the wheel hits on the bumpstop. I should know since I have the same exact setup on my car now
I ran 17x11 ZR1s too. If you let the wheels hang by the bump stop mounts, they will catch. Under normal driving circumstances (even under cornering, when the axle is skewed), the chances of there being that much extension in the suspension are pretty slim. If you're talking about autocrossing and such, that's another matter, but in the year+ I ran 17x11's, the only time my bump stops ever came into contact with my wheels was when I jacked the car up from the side or forgot to take the wheels off before raising the rearend that far.

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Originally Posted by 9t8z28
The tire rubs the inner wheelwell and the wheel hits on the bumpstop. I should know since I have the same exact setup on my car now
You are incorrect sir. The only time the wheel/tire hits the bumpstop is when the rear end is hanging free and the car is lifted on the subframes. When the car is on the ground you won't have any problems. I'm curious did you actually rub on them while driving or on stands?

The only way I could see one rubbing on the bumpstops is on the stock springs at stock hieght. Just look at where it sits when the car is on the ground, it sits underneith the upper lip of the wheel, out of the way.
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Originally Posted by 9t8z28
Typically you will need an adjustable panhard bar to center the rear. Then possibly you will need to grind down the bump stop and dent in the inner wheelhouse in front of the bump stop.

Firebirds generally have more room than the Camaros.
Usually only lowered cars need adjustable panhard bars. Because once you lower your car, you use the adjustable panhard bar to "recenter it".

Originally Posted by MadMike96
I just cut the bump stop off and then rolled the finder lip and every thing is good now
You DO NOT need to cut the bump stop at all. Jack the car up from the rear differential and the bump stops will not be an issue.

Originally Posted by 9t8z28

I would get the panhard NOW.
Why?

Originally Posted by Martin HD-28
I bought my ss with 315's on the back and my car's been lowered so it's not unusual for my tires to rub. However, I would never consider "rolling" my fenders in, not my baby. I've considered getting a set of the 1" spacers but I have no idea how to install them, i guess I just need to check into it a little more.
1 Inch spacers would only PUSH the wheels out further meaning... your fender would be more likely hit the fender then before. The spacer is only used to stop the INSIDE of the wheel from rubbing.

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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
I ran 17x11 ZR1s too. If you let the wheels hang by the bump stop mounts, they will catch. Under normal driving circumstances (even under cornering, when the axle is skewed), the chances of there being that much extension in the suspension are pretty slim. If you're talking about autocrossing and such, that's another matter, but in the year+ I ran 17x11's, the only time my bump stops ever came into contact with my wheels was when I jacked the car up from the side or forgot to take the wheels off before raising the rearend that far.

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I agree with you. I have been running different 17x11 wheels for yrs and have never had any issues with my wheels hitting my bump stops. I grinded off my bump stops on a camaro yrs ago, but I havent done it since, and wont.
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Also, if you need to do the BFH mod(which is when you hammer the areas in the wheel well that the tire is hitting). Make sure that your back seats are up. I have heard of issues with the backseats when left down while doing the BFH.



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