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Old 11-07-2016, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Firebirdmuscle View Post
Nice times, there right on par with the mods. Great job with everything and keep chipping away. Good suspension is a main key to bolt on cars' success. You still have a good bit you can bring that 60' down. You do that and that et will fall dramatically.
Thanks man. I forgot to mention that I have LCA's, relos and panhard bar. I have pretty consistently deadhooked on my Toyo TQ's. If im already deadhooking with zero wheelhope, are there other suspension mods that will help with the 60'?
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Thanks man. I forgot to mention that I have LCA's, relos and panhard bar. I have pretty consistently deadhooked on my Toyo TQ's. If im already deadhooking with zero wheelhope, are there other suspension mods that will help with the 60'?
I may have missed it somewhere but a good set of shocks. Double adjustable are always nice if you can swing the extra bit they cost. Your cutting 1.7x 60's, you can definitely get that down into the 1.6's and 1.5's if you go more drag oriented.
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Originally Posted by Firebirdmuscle View Post
I may have missed it somewhere but a good set of shocks. Double adjustable are always nice if you can swing the extra bit they cost. Your cutting 1.7x 60's, you can definitely get that down into the 1.6's and 1.5's if you go more drag oriented.
Man, I appreciate the suggestions. I'm on KYB Gas A Just's which of course are just a step up from DeCarbons. I don't think I'm willing to go with drag shocks because of the lose of ride quality. This car is not a DD, but it is a street car than a strip car. I also forgot to mention that the car has weld in SFC's too.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:19 AM
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Man, I appreciate the suggestions. I'm on KYB Gas A Just's which of course are just a step up from DeCarbons. I don't think I'm willing to go with drag shocks because of the lose of ride quality. This car is not a DD, but it is a street car than a strip car. I also forgot to mention that the car has weld in SFC's too.
I have Strange single adjustable on the rear and bilstiens on the front. The strange shocks have 10 settings from (1) so soft that I can bounce the car pretty easily to (10) so stiff that I can't move it. I have them at 3 or 4 driving around and 8 at the track. They were the biggest improvement in my 60'.

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I have Strange single adjustable on the rear and bilstiens on the front. The strange shocks have 10 settings from (1) so soft that I can bounce the car pretty easily to (10) so stiff that I can't move it. I have them at 3 or 4 driving around and 8 at the track. They were the biggest improvement in my 60'.
Wow, that sounds pretty awesome. I guess what I'm having a hard time understanding is if I'm already dead hooking with my TQ's, how will different shocks help?
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Wow, that sounds pretty awesome. I guess what I'm having a hard time understanding is if I'm already dead hooking with my TQ's, how will different shocks help?
The correct suspension doesn't only provide traction, it also propels the car forward. Let's say you dead hook, but your suspenion is soft and the shocks are still compressing as car rolls out. That excess compression is wasted energy that could have been put into the tires to move the car forward quicker. That's how I see it anyway. I kept going softer on the shocks and spinning got worse because the shocks were only letting so much weight go to the tire. As I went stiffer with them, they would let more weight go to the tire, I'd spin less, and 60' improved. With the slicks, I'm sure I'm now pulling one tire off the ground for a little bit. In a nut shell, even though you are deadhooking, you can dial in how quickly the transfer of weight turns into forward motion.
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Originally Posted by Hardtop Brian View Post
The correct suspension doesn't only provide traction, it also propels the car forward. Let's say you dead hook, but your suspenion is soft and the shocks are still compressing as car rolls out. That excess compression is wasted energy that could have been put into the tires to move the car forward quicker. That's how I see it anyway. I kept going softer on the shocks and spinning got worse because the shocks were only letting so much weight go to the tire. As I went stiffer with them, they would let more weight go to the tire, I'd spin less, and 60' improved. With the slicks, I'm sure I'm now pulling one tire off the ground for a little bit. In a nut shell, even though you are deadhooking, you can dial in how quickly the transfer of weight turns into forward motion.
I really appreciate the explanation. I have never had the explained to me and apparently haven't researched enough to come across that info. Looks like my next mod will be rear shocks.
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I myself have never rode in a car with a good koni setup but people swear by them for handling shock for good street use. Now, as far as what I can give real world data on, I have had Viking rear coilovers for a little over a year with stock decarbons up front and the car drove good to me. Felt no different than a full decarbons set up. I recently just got the front Viking coilovers and now after being on the full Viking set up it still to me drives just like a full set of decarbons. Now I know everyone's car is different and each setup will be different but the Vikings have a lot of adjustment in them and honestly I never change them from my drag settings. It drives fine to me. But what I can deal with and you can will be different. I definitely wouldn't just say you don't want them becuase their a (drag) shock/coilover. Many people drive these on full trim street cars and like them.
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This is my first F-body and my car came with KYB gas-adjusts on all four corners. So, I have never experienced the DeCarbons. Folks talk about the DeCarbons pretty badly when it comes to ride quality. I've always felt like my car rides pretty well on the KYB's, but the rear did became a little bit more harsh when I lowered the car 1.25". Car still rides very well for what it is, especially considering my DD is a Lexus.

My car is more street than strip. Trying to find the right balance for me. Might just do a cam for my next mod.
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You will like a cam. Just realize that starts a slippery slope 😉
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You will like a cam. Just realize that starts a slippery slope 😉
Thanks for the warning. I've been resisting the urge.
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