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Old 08-15-2006, 09:23 PM
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Im wondering why my car hasnt cut a 12 sec pass I went to the track today and the best I passed was a 13.19 @108.42 mph and a 2.08 sixty ft as far as mods go I have a 2000 camaro Z28 ,Automatic,with Flotech 3 inch headers to an 3 inch ory y pipe no cats to a 3 inch flowmaster , I have a set of Richmond 3.73 gears ,K&N airbox delete kit with filter Ram air hood that feeds filter ,SLP maf,Hypertech 160 thermostat,with a hypertech power programer 3 installed,Ported throttle body , My question is should I be running in the 12 sec range or not and what can i do to run 12 sec any advice will be greatly appreciated Thanks Aaron

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get that 60' down to a 1.9 which is easy and ull have it.
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Originally Posted by ABH114
Im wondering why my car hasnt cut a 12 sec pass I went to the track today and the best I passed was a 13.19 @108.42 mph and a 2.08 sixty ft as far as mods go I have a 2000 camaro Z28 ,Automatic,with Flotech 3 inch headers to an 3 inch ory y pipe no cats to a 3 inch flowmaster , I have a set of Richmond 3.73 gears ,K&N airbox delete kit with filter Ram air hood that feeds filter ,SLP maf,Hypertech 160 thermostat,with a hypertech power programer 3 installed,Ported throttle body , My question is should I be running in the 12 sec range or not and what can i do to run 12 sec any advice will be greatly appreciated Thanks Aaron

1st off get rid off that flowmaster sounds awesome but doesnt flow much better than a stock muffler, ditch it for an slp loudmouth.
2nd when I had the hypertech pp 3 I did a before and after on the dyno, 1 without the hpp 3 and the other with it programmed, lets just say I sold the hpp3 the result was threw in a bunch of timing and started to detonate.
Try getting it dyno tuned, with that slp maf it might be sendin mixed signals to the computer.
3rd are you using drag radials??
4th with the 3.73's a stall converter 3000+ stall would compliment that greatly, again would prob need to be tuned.
I would say mid 12's would be attainable if these were done.

Good numbers though with these mods.
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Yeah , you should be in the 12's easy with DR's and a good launch. There are alot of Lt1's breaking into the 12's with similar mods, you should have no problem with some DR's.
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Yeah , you should be in the 12's easy with DR's and a good launch. There are alot of Lt1's breaking into the 12's with similar mods, you should have no problem with some DR's.
It is a LS1 though. What do Lt's have to do with this??
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Originally Posted by ABH114
Im wondering why my car hasnt cut a 12 sec pass I went to the track today and the best I passed was a 13.19 @108.42 mph and a 2.08 sixty ft as far as mods go I have a 2000 camaro Z28 ,Automatic,with Flotech 3 inch headers to an 3 inch ory y pipe no cats to a 3 inch flowmaster , I have a set of Richmond 3.73 gears ,K&N airbox delete kit with filter Ram air hood that feeds filter ,SLP maf,Hypertech 160 thermostat,with a hypertech power programer 3 installed,Ported throttle body , My question is should I be running in the 12 sec range or not and what can i do to run 12 sec any advice will be greatly appreciated Thanks Aaron
I say ditch the Hypercrap programmer. Get a real tune and your there. Yes DR"S will help but you can cut a 1.9 60 ft on street tires and make it to 12.99. In my old SS I did it on kdws tires. That chockmaster need's to go as well.
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Originally Posted by blackbird00
get that 60' down to a 1.9 which is easy and ull have it.
Do the above and get a cutout. If you like the way your car sounds just use the cutout for the track to bypass that flowmaster.If you do this you will be in the 12's easily
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well look at my sig that was with a 4k clutch dump
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ditch the chokemaster, get it TUNED, get some tires. hypertech doesnt do anything other than raise the timing so high it almost maxes out the knock sensors with the crap table. then i say 12.7 easily
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What they said.

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Converter. Your 60 foots are too high. I went from 2.0 60's to consistant 1.80's with the ocasional 1.79 on ET Streets just by changing converters. Most of you ET is made before quarter track.

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I love how you guys just keep throwing mods out there. He doesn't need a converter to break into the 12's. He needs to ditch the blowmaster and he's there. Even some better tires and he's there.
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It doesn't look like anyone asked if you are spinning on launch, Are you? I would assume so with that 60'..If you are, get the M/T ET Street drag radial..That will get those 60's down & a 12 sec pass
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Originally Posted by Frosty
I love how you guys just keep throwing mods out there. He doesn't need a converter to break into the 12's. He needs to ditch the blowmaster and he's there. Even some better tires and he's there.
His car is not leaving hard enough. Changing mufflers or putting a cutout on the car will not give it enough power to make it leave harder. 2.08 60 foot and a 108 mph ??? His 60 foot is suffering. If he is on a street tire that is his probem, if not the next thing he needs is a converter or something else to lower his 60 foot times. I have a stock muffler on my car with no cut out and I have a trap speed of 103 and I made it into the 12s. Like i said before the 1st quarter of the track makes your ET.
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My point is he doesn't need a converter to get into the 12's. He needs to maximize the power he's making now which he isn't. If he's having traction issues now a converter sure won't help that

I sure as hell didn't need a converter to get into the 12's
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Originally Posted by Frosty
My point is he doesn't need a converter to get into the 12's. He needs to maximize the power he's making now which he isn't. If he's having traction issues now a converter sure won't help that

I sure as hell didn't need a converter to get into the 12's
Traction issues is understandable, if he is on a street tires thats the problem, but if he is running a DR or a slick, changing a muffler or adding a cut out is not going to get him the power he needs to lower his 60 enough.

You (Frosty) also have suspension work done to your car, I'm sure that helped your 60 foot.
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Originally Posted by CrawlinRS
You (Frosty) also have suspension work done to your car, I'm sure that helped your 60 foot.
Those times were pre springs. I only had LCA's. The best 60' I cut was a 1.99. I've only run street tires.

If he's pulling those 60' times in slicks or D/R's he drives like a bitch
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Originally Posted by Frosty

If he's pulling those 60' times in slicks or D/R's he drives like a bitch
You've gotta point.
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I have street tires ( rsa's ) and cut 1.98 2.00 60fts and that gets me in the high 12.90s. He has enough power to get there in good weather just gotta get those 60fts down whether its tires or technique in launching.


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