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deputyss May 16, 2008 10:31 AM

Sub 300 Hp Camaro In The Mid 12's
 
Ok i had a pretty much stock 00 SS it now has a lid, Lt's, slp underdrive pully, dynomax cat back, baby cam(221/221 559. 559. 114 lsa), MT DR's, and 3.55 gear, i took my car to my tuner (bluecat) and we only got 298 rwhp. he told me my converter was not locking and was useless (tci 2700 stall). so i said screw it and took it to the track anyways. the car went 12.564 @ 105.366 1.772 60' and 7.978 1/8. so i ordered a vig 3200 stall and put a cutout in. but i was happy as hell to see those #'s in a 298 hp camaro. i'll keep you guys updated on the track #'s when i go back with a good converter. just though i would share the story.

ls1wannabe May 16, 2008 11:29 AM

your car has some problems you should be trapping much higher than that.

quadd2244 May 16, 2008 12:16 PM

UMM my car with full bolt ons right now should be around 320 at the wheels and my car runs the 1/4 mile just as quick as yours with a slightly higher trap speed. You have some major probs going on to be only pulling 298rwhp even if its a mustang dyno. I know your cam is on the small side but with just the bolt ons you have it should be alot higher then that

deputyss May 16, 2008 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by quadd2244 (Post 9376749)
UMM my car with full bolt ons right now should be around 320 at the wheels and my car runs the 1/4 mile just as quick as yours with a slightly higher trap speed. You have some major probs going on to be only pulling 298rwhp even if its a mustang dyno. I know your cam is on the small side but with just the bolt ons you have it should be alot higher then that

this is with the old converter that dosent work. just like you said are cars run the same 1/4's and yours will see 320 hp #'s. dyno #'s dont mean shit!!!!!

camscam02 May 16, 2008 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by deputyss (Post 9377349)
this is with the old converter that dosent work. just like you said are cars run the same 1/4's and yours will see 320 hp #'s. dyno #'s dont mean shit!!!!!

If dyno numbers dont mean shit, then why are you basing your first post off of a sub 300 hp Camaro goes mid 12's?

NateLS1 May 16, 2008 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by camscam02 (Post 9377601)
If dyno numbers dont mean shit, then why are you basing your first post off of a sub 300 hp Camaro goes mid 12's?

Agreed. Obviously its not a [B]sub[B]300 hp camaro!

racer77ss May 16, 2008 08:33 PM

maby 398 hp? some stock freak ls1's have put down 300+ so 298 hp cant be right with a cam+full bolt ons

quadd2244 May 16, 2008 08:34 PM

I agree dyno numbers dont mean shit but come on dude you dynoed what alot of BONE STOCK cars dyno and your mph matchs alot of BONE STOCK cars you have a good et because of the converter

chevrunner21 May 17, 2008 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by quadd2244 (Post 9379402)
I agree dyno numbers dont mean shit but come on dude you dynoed what alot of BONE STOCK cars dyno and your mph matchs alot of BONE STOCK cars you have a good et because of the converter

agreed i ran a 13.7x@105.xx and 1. it was my first time racing anything specially stick 2.cars bone stock not even a k&n nothing done to it, i didn't even have my ws6store short stick on yet. i just got such a shit et thanks to some bald continentals that came on the car lol.

JB151 May 17, 2008 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by racer77ss (Post 9379396)
maby 398 hp? some stock freak ls1's have put down 300+ so 298 hp cant be right with a cam+full bolt ons

The 300 rwhp stock cars were usually 02's, and I don't believe any of them were autos...especially with 3.55 gears. If he started with 275 hp and his converter is not working on the dyno, these numbers are possible. Especially considering some dynos always run on the low side. There's just as many freakishly low hp fbodies as there are high ones. It's the luck of the draw.

deputyss May 18, 2008 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by JB151 (Post 9381466)
The 300 rwhp stock cars were usually 02's, and I don't believe any of them were autos...especially with 3.55 gears. If he started with 275 hp and his converter is not working on the dyno, these numbers are possible. Especially considering some dynos always run on the low side. There's just as many freakishly low hp fbodies as there are high ones. It's the luck of the draw.

thank you sir.

deputyss May 18, 2008 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by quadd2244 (Post 9379402)
I agree dyno numbers dont mean shit but come on dude you dynoed what alot of BONE STOCK cars dyno and your mph matchs alot of BONE STOCK cars you have a good et because of the converter

the converter in my car is shot.

quadd2244 May 18, 2008 11:05 PM

Yes but you still cut a really good 60ft for the converter being shot and even if the converter is shot it still seems like your way down on Hp. IF the converter was real bad I dont think you would be pulling 1.7 60fts

deputyss May 19, 2008 01:24 AM


Originally Posted by quadd2244 (Post 9390593)
Yes but you still cut a really good 60ft for the converter being shot and even if the converter is shot it still seems like your way down on Hp. IF the converter was real bad I dont think you would be pulling 1.7 60fts

O K

camscam02 May 19, 2008 11:23 PM

this thread is hilarious... you said that the converter is bad because it is not locking? am I correct?

well in a 1/4 mile pass the converter wont lock anyways... so the converter problem doesn't matter in your quarter mile times... sorry to say, the car is just slow

Now on the dyno with the converter locked you would pick up around 25-30 rwhp which would make the dyno numbers still crappy, but once again in a quarter mile pass the converter doesnt lock so it was not a problem

deputyss May 20, 2008 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by camscam02 (Post 9397821)
this thread is hilarious... you said that the converter is bad because it is not locking? am I correct?

well in a 1/4 mile pass the converter wont lock anyways... so the converter problem doesn't matter in your quarter mile times... sorry to say, the car is just slow

Now on the dyno with the converter locked you would pick up around 25-30 rwhp which would make the dyno numbers still crappy, but once again in a quarter mile pass the converter doesnt lock so it was not a problem

ya the converter does lock-up about 3/4 down the track. and i dont think a 12.50 car is slow. just my out look on things

sspower May 20, 2008 03:21 AM

my A4 02 ss made 302 rwhp bone stock, i think cars with a higher stall torque converter dyno lower than if they had the stock converter. That might explain why his car is only makin 298 but running a decent time.

deputyss May 20, 2008 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by sspower (Post 9398567)
my A4 02 ss made 302 rwhp bone stock, i think cars with a higher stall torque converter dyno lower than if they had the stock converter. That might explain why his car is only makin 298 but running a decent time.

very true

chevrunner21 May 20, 2008 06:15 AM

im not positive but i was always told youll see MORE power on the dyno with an aftermarket stall than you would with a stock one so idk about that one. im not positive just going off of what i have heard on here.

moge11 May 20, 2008 11:55 AM

Thats not even a "decent time". Becuz, he had a 1.7 60'. If that was a 2.2 60' and a 12.50 at 117mph. then that would be good for the mods becuz he would only be a set of slicks away from 11.40's or faster.
the car is a TURD! All it takes is 290ish rwhp to trap 105. STOCK cars do that all the time. Hell even a some stock auto 98's run that.


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