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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Default AES 390ci - Now with Callies Dragonslayer crankshaft

With some success from our proven 390ci force induction engine combination we're working
with Callies on introducing Dragonslayer crankshaft as an option.

Also Callies Ultra Forged rods are available too.

Current price list - updated 5/03/2012


Original 390ci = SOLD OUT
6.0 Block
Callies Compstar H-beam rods
Callies C-Series 5140 3.825" crank
ARP main studs

New 390ci = $4695
6.0 Block
Callies Compstar H-beam rods
Callies Dragonslayer 3.800" crank

New 390ci = $5495
6.0 Block
Callies Ultra billet rods
Callies Dragonslayer 3.800" crank


New 390ci = $7395
LSX block
Callies Ultra billet rods
Callies Dragonslayer 3.800" crank


options available for all the above blocks
  • Piston coating ceramic top/moly skirt $290
  • Calico Coated main rod and camshaft bearings $150
  • Machine block for 1/2" head studs $550
  • Dowel main caps $300 (LSX already doweled)
  • O ring block, Reciever grove heads, Copper head gaskets $500
  • Lateral gas ports $145

Price sounds steep however 2000hp capable with LSX block

Heres a pic of the new Ultra Billet rods, $1350 for a set of them.



Diamond pistons we use for build

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Last edited by AES Racing; May 3, 2012 at 08:26 PM.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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very nice price for this setup.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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What are the dimensions on the engine?
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
What are the dimensions on the engine?
3.800" crankshaft
6.125" rod
4.030" bore size

Results in a stronger piston using the shorter stroke, shorter stroke has more journal overlap,
1/10" more journal overlap then 4.000" crank.
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journal overlap? Stronger piston because you don't have to move the pin as far?
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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390ci w/ Callies Dragonslayer crankshaft $4350
-Cp Pistons -15cc
-NPR gas nitrided steel top ring set, 2nd ring napier
-Compstar H beam rods

Which block is this based on?
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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Gmpp lsx
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Gmpp lsx

I believe it's a 6.0 iron block. If you want an Lsx block, that is a $2,645 upgrade.
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Originally Posted by HydroStream6
Which block is this based on?
This ^
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Looks like a nice setup, would be interested to see how long it would hold at 2k hp level.
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Legit deal.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Can the 6.0 Iron block handle 2000 hp ? It's $ 6995.00 with LSX.

I know the Iron can handle 1000 hp.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mike13
journal overlap? Stronger piston because you don't have to move the pin as far?
Overlap is considered an important factor of crankshaft strength, hence why GM made "400 main" vs. "350 main" when they increased the crankshaft stroke for 400 SBC. This picture should better explain.



Originally Posted by mike13
Stronger piston because you don't have to move the pin as far?
No,

Compression height dictates the real estate available for the ring lands. As you shorten compression height rings are supported by less material, top ring land generally is compensated to be thinner. Thinner top land any extra heat applied to the piston (detonation) will cause the aluminum to contract.

Thicker top ring land is able to absorb the heat, less chances of cracking or affecting the structure of the piston.

This cylinder had 44% leak down


Heres a picture of our Cp Piston next to a "408" piston
Attached Thumbnails AES 390ci - Now with Callies Dragonslayer crankshaft-journaloverlap.jpg   AES 390ci - Now with Callies Dragonslayer crankshaft-390piston.jpg  
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wildta
Can the 6.0 Iron block handle 2000 hp ? It's $ 6995.00 with LSX.

I know the Iron can handle 1000 hp.
LSX block or other aftermarket block for over 1200hp

That $6995 I tried to make apparent GMPP LSX block.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 4bangermustang
I believe it's a 6.0 iron block. If you want an Lsx block, that is a $2,645 upgrade.
Just to clarify

$6995

GMPP LSX block
Callies dragonslayer crankshaft
Callies Ultra billet rods
CP Piston set/steel top ring set/.180 wall pins
H series bearings
ARP main studs

6.0 with same parts $5150

LSX block is $1845 upgrade

That comprises of LSX Block, we hone the cam tunnel on LSX, it does need more boring time, we can eat it for a sale if someone wants to step it up.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HydroStream6
390ci w/ Callies Dragonslayer crankshaft $4350
-Cp Pistons -15cc
-NPR gas nitrided steel top ring set, 2nd ring napier
-Compstar H beam rods

Which block is this based on?
6.0 Iron.
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
3.800" crankshaft
6.125" rod
4.030" bore size

Results in a stronger piston using the shorter stroke, shorter stroke has more journal overlap,
1/10" more journal overlap then 4.000" crank.
I like that
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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Good work Fraser! I expect these will be very popular soon enough
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thanks for the pictures, especially the comparison of the pistons, turns a concept into a reality, not to mention the upgrade in ringland size is HUGE lol
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Old Dec 3, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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i wasnt originally going to go with a built engine but i believe this fits the bill and the price is right where i need it.
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