Not thrilled with Hardcore Motorsports.
I have learned a valuable lesson. It pays to do your homework or even to just do the work yourself. There are more than enough resources on here to get pretty much any job done.
I'm not really sure what my options are. They screwed me over and because of the postion I was in I paid. A few of the site sponsors have offered to help out and swap to the cam I originally bought. All for a lot better price than Hardcore would ever do it for.
I will decide whether it needs it or not when I get the car out of storage in the next month, I want to get it to the track and see where it stands. If it pulls decent times I may just keep it like it is until I build a forged setup. But for some reason I have a hard time believing a 224/224 will out perform a TSP 233/239 cam. Call me crazy..
I'm not really sure what my options are. They screwed me over and because of the postion I was in I paid. A few of the site sponsors have offered to help out and swap to the cam I originally bought. All for a lot better price than Hardcore would ever do it for.
I will decide whether it needs it or not when I get the car out of storage in the next month, I want to get it to the track and see where it stands. If it pulls decent times I may just keep it like it is until I build a forged setup. But for some reason I have a hard time believing a 224/224 will out perform a TSP 233/239 cam. Call me crazy..
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From: Grove City Ohio/Port Washington L.I sometimes
Originally Posted by Ryan'sSS
If it pulls decent times I may just keep it like it is until I build a forged setup. But for some reason I have a hard time believing a 224/224 will out perform a TSP 233/239 cam. Call me crazy..
Save the money you would spend on a cam swap,pick a good shop and do it right when the time comes.
You have three good shops in your area that won't bend you over.Wheel,Livernois,Stenod.
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From: 32639 Groesbeck HWY. Fraser MI 48026
Just my .02, here in Michigan we have a law that says when quoted by a repair shop they can not charge more than $50.00 over the original quote unless they contact you personally. This might only be correct if you recieved a writen repair and signed it. With you being out of state I don't know.
Well i am another guy who has had work done at Hardcore and tthey messed my **** up really bad. First off they said that they were gonna tweek my computer and they by doing that they fried it. Then they hooked my nitrous up wrong. Then they welded my tourque arm on crooked.
It's funny how they seem to be the only sponsor on the site that doesn't seem to care about thier name. I guess if you have a **** poor reputation, a few more comments couldn't knock it down anymore.
First off, I'm sorry to hear about your dealings with them. As you said, it does pay to do your homework and this is a great deal of help to me. I was thinking of having some work done by them, or atleast buying the parts from them, which I guess right now I'm glad I haven't spent anything. I hate to see anything bad happen to myself, let along anyone else. It's amazing these shops get anywhere when they know this board is pretty much where all LS1 talk determines where alot of guys decide on having work done or purchasing parts so they know they're dealing with a reputable shop. This stuff isn't cheap by any means and its not something we want to have to do more than once. I know how you feel being away. I'm in Michigan right now going to school, but my car is back home in PA. I would hate to bring my car all the way up here and have that happen. It's good we have the boards to make people aware of this stuff. I know I appreciate it.
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Hi Ryan,
I don't follow this board very much, my apologies. I'd like you to call me when you get a chance. The last thing I want is unhappy customers.
I've only been here for a couple of months now and we have gone through some growing pains over the last year. I'm here to make sure people have a good experience with Hardcore Racing. We have good people and very knowledgable engine builders and mechanics. Unfortunately, every engine builder out there thinks their way is the best way. When it's all said and done, there might be more than one way to make the power. I can tell you we have crossed the 2000hp mark with our F3 supercharged race engines. There may or may not be others out there making the same power - but others can. It takes a ton of money and tons of time doing R&D to figure out what works and what doesn't.
We have spent countless dollars and time testing camshafts. And yes it is possible for the cam we picked out to make more power than the one you supplied. I used to get caught up in duration and lift numbers, but there is more to it than just those numbers.
As far as the other issues with the car and the cost, let's talk. I do care about what people have to say about us - but there are two sides to every story.
I look forward to talking with you, or you can email me at kelley@hcorems.com.
Sincerely,
Kelley Longwish - Hardcore Racing
810-787-2960
I don't follow this board very much, my apologies. I'd like you to call me when you get a chance. The last thing I want is unhappy customers.
I've only been here for a couple of months now and we have gone through some growing pains over the last year. I'm here to make sure people have a good experience with Hardcore Racing. We have good people and very knowledgable engine builders and mechanics. Unfortunately, every engine builder out there thinks their way is the best way. When it's all said and done, there might be more than one way to make the power. I can tell you we have crossed the 2000hp mark with our F3 supercharged race engines. There may or may not be others out there making the same power - but others can. It takes a ton of money and tons of time doing R&D to figure out what works and what doesn't.
We have spent countless dollars and time testing camshafts. And yes it is possible for the cam we picked out to make more power than the one you supplied. I used to get caught up in duration and lift numbers, but there is more to it than just those numbers.
As far as the other issues with the car and the cost, let's talk. I do care about what people have to say about us - but there are two sides to every story.
I look forward to talking with you, or you can email me at kelley@hcorems.com.
Sincerely,
Kelley Longwish - Hardcore Racing
810-787-2960
Launching!
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From: Charleston, WV
Originally Posted by Ryan'sSS
I guess if they ignor this post long enough it might go away..
Well, three months and you finally get a response. OOH RAH! Persistence pays off! Let us know how it turns out.
-Devil Dog out-
