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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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for a ORY and probably a Sweet Thunder muffler and have it dump like the duals did. The ground clearance with the TDs sucks, and i figure i can tuck up the ypipe nicely and have alot better ground clearance and not sacrifice too much power with that.

Only thing i was wondering...is the ST 3'' and then necks down to 2.5''?

and i was maybe thinking about the Powerstick...ive heard good things about them..
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for a ORY and probably a Sweet Thunder muffler and have it dump like the duals did. The ground clearance with the TDs sucks, and i figure i can tuck up the ypipe nicely and have alot better ground clearance and not sacrifice too much power with that.

Only thing i was wondering...is the ST 3'' and then necks down to 2.5''?

and i was maybe thinking about the Powerstick...ive heard good things about them..
No the ST necks down from 3" to 2 1/4" inside. Powerstick is 3" all the way through or 2.5" all the way through depending on what size u purchase. Instead of getting rid of the duals, why not take them to a muffler shop and see if they cant do anything about getting them to tuck higher with different hangers and what not? Should be a piece of cake.
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They are 2.5" inside. I got the 2.5" inlet/outlet mufflers and they are the same size all the way through.
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They are 2.5" inside. I got the 2.5" inlet/outlet mufflers and they are the same size all the way through.
Hate to break it to you bud, but no they are not. They neck down to 2 1/4 inches on the inner diameter piping. The only Chambered mufflers that dont neck down is the Powerstick mufflers and the Stainless works muffs. Dont believe me? Do a search, there are multiple subjects on just this. You will also find out that the Powersticks/SW chambered mufflers will sound BETTER because of the smaller louvers inside of the piping. The ST's have large louvers which cause a lot of rasp and rattling noise.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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good stuff
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I don't need to search, I'll just unbolt my tips and look again. And rasp???? None here. Even with dumps I've never had rasp.
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I dont think taking the duals to a muffler shop would give me the clearance im looking for. If i get the TSP ORY and a Powerstick, i should be able to tuck that up just like anyone else running a ORY and a catback. But it will still be loud and make more power.

Im pretty sure ill be going with the Powerstick though
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
No the ST necks down from 3" to 2 1/4" inside. Powerstick is 3" all the way through or 2.5" all the way through depending on what size u purchase. Instead of getting rid of the duals, why not take them to a muffler shop and see if they cant do anything about getting them to tuck higher with different hangers and what not? Should be a piece of cake.

this is incorrect

they go from 3" to 2 1/2, thats why with my 2.5 system I went with 3" sweet thunders....they sound AMAZING, there is a bit of rasp though lets say if I drive in 1st up to like 4 grand, then let off the gas...kind of a braggggghhhhhhhhm but at WOT, watch out buddy
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Originally Posted by erikthegoalie
this is incorrect

they go from 3" to 2 1/2, thats why with my 2.5 system I went with 3" sweet thunders....they sound AMAZING, there is a bit of rasp though lets say if I drive in 1st up to like 4 grand, then let off the gas...kind of a braggggghhhhhhhhm but at WOT, watch out buddy
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Originally Posted by 99FormulaM6
I dont think taking the duals to a muffler shop would give me the clearance im looking for. If i get the TSP ORY and a Powerstick, i should be able to tuck that up just like anyone else running a ORY and a catback. But it will still be loud and make more power.

Im pretty sure ill be going with the Powerstick though
With my duals I have more ground clearance than I did when I had the stock y-pipe/exhaust. So, it is possible, just depends on how its done.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Some people get duals to tuck up better than a y-pipe setup.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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If you still want stainless steel, check out Stainless Works Powerpack chambered mufflers. Very similar to Powersticks but in stainless.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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The only problem with ground clearance is...I dont see how it could get any better without crazy mods done (ie. cutting and welding, or drilling more holes to move the hangers) and i dont want to do that. Nor do i want to beat in my floorboard to get the better clearance.

Ill check out the SW muffs too. Im not too worried about stainless since im going to paint it all black anyway. From what ive seen the SW and Powersticks are both about the same, and both have less rasp than a regular bullet since the louvers on the inside are different than regular bullets
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I did a search and didn't come up with much, but I did take a digital micrometer to the inside of my muffler at the very end since I was working under their last night and it certainly isn't 2 1/4". I gauged in front of the last baffle or whatever you want to call it and it was slightly over 2 1/2". Granted digital mics can be fudged somewhat by adjusting the angle of your reading, but it's close enough to 2 1/2" to suit me. And like I said, when I got them there was no noticeable neck down as I was looking through them. I believe what my tools tell me and what my eyes tell me. Anyone else want to mic theirs and see what they get?
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
Again if I'm so wrong, do a search and look for yourself.
I'll play...

http://www.sweet-thunder.com/chamber...html#stainless

In this basic group of STAINLESS STEEL chambered mufflers, the inner baffle tubes are the same diameter as the inlet and outlet. However, 3" inlets and outlets come with 2½" inner baffle tubes.
http://www.sweet-thunder.com/chamber....html#aluminum

In this basic group of chambered mufflers, the inner baffle tubes are the same diameter as the inlet and outlet. However, 3" inlets and outlets come with 2½" inner baffle tubes.
Think they know their own products?

The only lines that come with a 2 1/4" inner baffle, which are clearly stated in the description on their site are the "custom upgrade" series. If you purchase these, after reading the description, and then later complain about it, you're a buffoon.

Regardless, yeah, they don't all neck down to 2 1/4".
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Good find.
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Originally Posted by 99Hawk262
Good find.
I'd like to hear some clips of the same car with duals running Sweet Thunders and then switched over to Power Sticks. I like how a Powerstick rep used to post here, never seen anyone from Sweet Thunder. The Powersticks look like a superior product, just curious on the sound.
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My duals are tucked up better than my y-pipe was, and I didn't modify the floorboard at all.
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
My duals are tucked up better than my y-pipe was, and I didn't modify the floorboard at all.

Do you have any pics of your setup?
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Originally Posted by Mike00ss
Do you have any pics of your setup?





3" all the way, run out back under the axle. I still haven't scrapped my exhaust yet in 4-5 months since I've had it on.
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