Fair price for machine work & labor to build a stroker motor?

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Dec 23, 2003 | 10:30 AM

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I wanted to buy everything as a matched set. It is a very nice and complete kit from Lunati. It may cost a bit more, especially since the Eagle Cranks are out, but I had zero issues installing it...

That rwtq number in your signature, is that with your storker motor?

Dec 23, 2003 | 10:35 AM

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That's a great price considering you used Lunati products. Not bad at all!

Chris, I know you were not referring to me, just wanted to make a point

Hey Todd,

I definately think you'd get a lot of business assembling shortblocks for a reasonable price, especially after you did a few and people saw you were doing quality work. I too have gotten irritated at the price gouging that seems to go on in the LS1 aftermarket community, some of the quoted prices I've seen are ridiculous from H/C packages to assembled shortblocks.

Dec 23, 2003 | 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A

These are the best sponsor deals on 382 short block/long blocks I've seen. Anyone know of a better deal?

Speed Inc.
SPORTSMAN SHORT BLOCK INCLUDES:
-Billet 4.00” stroke 4340 crank
-Billet 6.125” connecting rods
-Diamond Flat top Piston w/2cc reliefs or -8.6cc Boost pistons
-Diamond Pro-select rings
-High performance bearings
-All Gaskets, seals and hardware for short block
-Fully balanced/blueprinted/Finish hone w/torque plate, assembled
$4,599.99

Speed Inc.
SPORTSMAN LONG BLOCK INCLUDES:
-Custom Comp Cams Roller camshaft, Forced Induction or naturally aspirated
-Comp Cams Lifters
-Felpro Head gasket/bolt set
-Double roller timing chain
-SLP blueprinted oil pump
-RGR, MTI, GTP or AFR heads
$6,299.99 w/RGRheads
$6,999.99 w/GTP or MTI heads

CARTEK SMALL BORE 382 CID LS1 SHORT BLOCK
Lunati 4340 pro series crankshaft 4.000" stroke
Scat 4340 connecting rods 6.125"
JE custom forged pistons
Plasma moly rings set
Clevite H series race bearings
Rotating assembly fully balanced
Engine blueprinted
Cartek hyd. roller cam
Double roller adjustable timing chain
Fully assembled short block (Engine core required)
$6,750.00

MTI 383cid Stroker Engine Package
MTI can also provide a 383cid (6.3L) engine package using a non-modified LS1 block and a forged stroker crankshaft kit. This engine setup includes a stock aluminum LS1/LS6 block, 4.00" forged stroker crankshaft, custom forged pistons and rings, custom billet connecting rods, all new bearings,
Price MTI 383cid Stroker Shortblock $5,995 +exchange

A large portion of the $ for these packages appears to be tied up in the Lunati rotating assembly, which is about $3700. Seems that you could cut at least $1000 (depending on what rods, pistons, and how good a deal you got on the crank) by going with the Eagle crank.

Dec 23, 2003 | 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyz

That rwtq number in your signature, is that with your storker motor?

Yes and it is an A4...

Dec 23, 2003 | 03:48 PM

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The machine shop I use is state of the art and regularly build $20k+ race hemis. They have so many NHRA trophies in their shop they have to build new shelves all the time

Similar deal here but the shop builds mostly NASCAR/BUSCH engines and a few NHRA. Sounds like I should be happy with the pricing all things considered. I've NEVER looked into having a bottom end done so this is new to me.

I appreciate the education on the pricing.

Thanks

Dec 23, 2003 | 03:51 PM

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Oh as for the Lunati assembly for a sweet deal call TBryne...it's well worth the phone call if you want the Lunati. Trust me.

Spohn had the Eagle crank for $820 and I was adding in what it cost to buy piston, rods, bolts & rings seperate. Balancing might be a little high.

I called Speed Demon they had them sell them for around $2000

Dec 23, 2003 | 03:54 PM

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Oh as for the Lunati assembly for a sweet deal call TBryne...it's well worth the phone call if you want the Lunati. Trust me.

Yeah, I saw he was having a sale. Anytime you have to e-mail Tom to get a price, (i.e. he can't/won't post it) it's probably going to be good.

Dec 23, 2003 | 04:01 PM

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Yeah, I saw he was having a sale. Anytime you have to e-mail Tom to get a price, (i.e. he can't/won't post it) it's probably going to be good.

So true!

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Dec 23, 2003 | 10:37 PM

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4" stroke crank clears but I did have to add clearence for my rod bolts.. That is with Oliver Rods.

Dec 24, 2003 | 08:09 AM

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H82BBad, thanks for the info I didn't think about the rod bolts may being an issue with aftermarket rods and the crank being ok.

Dec 24, 2003 | 07:02 PM

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i would love to put an ls1 into my 89
i thinking instead of just buying an ls1 and puting it into my car that i will build a stroker in a iron block 6.0L
get 4.125 crank and all the other stuff
i might be better off

Dec 24, 2003 | 10:41 PM

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I had Joe Jolly of LPE build my short block I think by the time all of the Labor,Balanceing,Align bored and hone,Machine,Assembly and all that it ran right in the range of $3000. No parts. It has Lunati crank, Ross piston, and all of the high quality parts so it will only have to be a one time purchace hopefully. Im happy with it runs real strong for a 8.9-1 motor. Idles like a champ.

Dec 24, 2003 | 10:42 PM

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Brent did u ever pick that motor up thats in the Back of brians shop. If u havent do u wanna sell it?

Dec 24, 2003 | 11:13 PM

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someone stole it from there when I went to get it in the summer

Dec 24, 2003 | 11:14 PM

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H82BBad, thanks for the info I didn't think about the rod bolts may being an issue with aftermarket rods and the crank being ok.

no problem, I think the lunati's might not ba as beefy as the olivers so they may clear.

Dec 25, 2003 | 12:29 AM

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Damn that sucks they didnt have a clue where it went to? U gonna come to BG and race when you get that new setup done? Im kinda anxious to see what u can get it to run. Later Justin

Dec 25, 2003 | 01:19 AM

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As far as Lunati Kits go. Tbyrne was $3999 when I was buying mine. Ramcharges hooked me up at $3350. I doubt Tbyrne can match that price even now.

Dec 25, 2003 | 08:55 AM

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Remember guy's, you get what you pay for.

My version is : "You may not always get what you pay for but you rarely get what you don't pay for."

Choose your builder carefully.

Dec 25, 2003 | 09:30 AM

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Damn that sucks they didnt have a clue where it went to? U gonna come to BG and race when you get that new setup done? Im kinda anxious to see what u can get it to run. Later Justin

yes. The car is running now! I am putting in my 9inch ths week. I have been fighting trans problems since I got it done.I think I have them fixed now.

BTW Machine work for my block was
80.00 to hone it, 25.00 to clean it, and 30.00 to install cam bearings

I clearenced it for my rods here at the house.

I bought my stoker kit used on here for 2100.00

Dec 25, 2003 | 10:30 AM

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The machine shop I use is state of the art and regularly build $20k+ race hemis. They have so many NHRA trophies in their shop they have to build new shelves all the time

the shop i'm using is similar to this, he builds some of the fastest 410 sprint car engines in the country, and his personal drag car a 67 vette with a 487 ci small block chevy runs a 6.60 1/4 mile. assembling an ls1 short block is the same as any other motor, good machine work, check cleanrances and torques, take your time and its gonna work out. there is nothing special about them.

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