Advanced Engineering Tech For the more hardcore LS1TECH residents

Anyone using Cerakote Coating on Engine Internals?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-17-2019, 09:55 PM
  #1  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
 
C5SixSpeedZ51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 171
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default Anyone using Cerakote Coating on Engine Internals?

I am working on a new build and been doing research on friction and thermal coatings.
The coating on Top of the piston greatly reduces the crank case temperatures, the side skirt coating reduces scuffing and friction, I have even seen combustion chambers coated with cerakote.
They have this stuff called micro slick that you can coat your engine bearings with and builders say it greatly reduces wear and friction.
Have you guys ever had any experience using this method with good results? Thanks.
Old 03-17-2019, 10:40 PM
  #2  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
 
C5SixSpeedZ51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 171
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default



Old 03-17-2019, 10:42 PM
  #3  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
 
C5SixSpeedZ51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 171
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I am assuming the thermal coating would help with piston shock from the cold temperatures of Nitrous as well.
Old 03-17-2019, 11:07 PM
  #4  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
 
C5SixSpeedZ51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 171
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-0612-engine-coatings/
Old 03-19-2019, 08:40 PM
  #5  
Teching In
 
97Tahoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milton, FL
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I've used both the Micro Slick and the Piston Coat on pistons. It holds up really well. I've also used their Glacier Silver and Chrome on exhaust manifolds in both the air cure and the oven cure variants. I may have had a bad or older batch of the air cure Silver or it's possible I didn't put the coats on thick enough, but I have some rust spots that show through on the last manifolds I did (unfortunately, these are the manifolds on my LQ9 in my Tahoe). The literature does say it should actually flow in such a manner that it fills in dips and imperfections and looks smooth, but the manifolds I have coated still show the "as cast" texture even after several coats were applied. I did use an airbrush to spray this time instead of a touch up gun, though. The oven cure stuff I have used fills everything in extremely well. It seems to be a bit thicker, but takes high temps to cure. The manifolds I have coated using the oven cure stuff with either the airbrush or a touch up gun look and feel smooth to the touch. None of the "cast" texture remains. The Chrome needs polishing and will become dull over time, so you have to polish it every now and then. I use them on turbo manifolds and they hold up very well to the heat and keep a significant amount of the heat in the manifold. On my turbo cars, it reduced underhood temps to the point they were cooler than they were with the factory manifold and heat shield in place.

I also do powdercoating on pretty much anything I get my hands on while working on something. Haha! It's an illness, I think.
Old 03-19-2019, 09:08 PM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
01FormulaTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: H-town
Posts: 1,447
Received 25 Likes on 21 Posts

Default

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...le-2-9l-5.html

^that build thread OP has applied thermal coatings to the valve springs, pistons, oil pump, cam, valves, retainers, combustion chambers etc...hasnt fired the engine yet tho
Old 03-22-2019, 03:18 PM
  #7  
KCS
Moderator
iTrader: (20)
 
KCS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Conroe, TX
Posts: 8,848
Received 307 Likes on 207 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C5SixSpeedZ51
Sweet baby jesus, that valve job makes my stomach turn. How the hell is someone going to go through all that trouble to coat the chambers and ignore something so critical?
Old 03-22-2019, 03:55 PM
  #8  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
 
C5SixSpeedZ51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 171
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Lol Idk KCS. It was a screenshot from the Cerakote site.....But the Coating sure does look Pretty. Lmao

Old 03-23-2019, 01:33 PM
  #9  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
 
C5SixSpeedZ51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 171
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I am also curious if Coating the Inside of a Aluminum intake manifold with Cerakote would Knock down the Intake Air Temperatures and help alot with heat soak.
Old 03-24-2019, 03:16 PM
  #10  
TECH Apprentice
 
Krom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 328
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

I've used swain tech stuff on pistons and exhaust. Its not DIY, but I've seen coated pistons survive egt's that caused failure on uncoated pistons in the same engine
The following users liked this post:
GSAWYERS (04-29-2021)
Old 03-24-2019, 04:09 PM
  #11  
Teching In
 
97Tahoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milton, FL
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It is very effective at blocking heat transfer. You could use it to prevent heat soak as long as the heat wasn’t coming from elevated intake air temps in the first place like in boosted applications.

On the exhaust side, the inside and outside are coated. It keeps a significant amount of the heat moving down the exhaust. Manifolds I have done on turbo cars used to glow red after a hard run. Now you can almost touch them after. I would imagine it helps with spool a bit, but have no back to back info since I usually am changing something at the same time. Haha!

The Cerakote line isn’t really a DIY product. It just happens that it is easy to use and sample sizes were made available to everyone. The oven cure versions need 500 and then up to 750 degrees to fully cure, but they are very resilient. I use industrial infrared heat lamps for this. The air cure line is relatively new by comparison, but does well.
Old 03-24-2019, 06:32 PM
  #12  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
 
C5SixSpeedZ51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Texas
Posts: 171
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Yeah its easy to use as long as your Prep work is good. My friend has coated lots of parts for the gun store he works at with Great results, He uses Oven Cure so that will be what I do. Seems to be some very good stuff.
Old 03-25-2019, 05:10 PM
  #13  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Kfxguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 4,057
Received 545 Likes on 425 Posts
Default

Makes me wonder if this would be effective in helping protect stock pistons in say a turbo 5.3




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:48 PM.