Designed my own cam, how do these valve events look? all data inside
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Designed my own cam, how do these valve events look? all data inside
I want to do this one myself and see how it works (good or bad I can say that I did it). I have been reading a lot in the last couple months, hoping to get a grasp on this.. so here it goes..
Comp Cams (230/234 .612/.598)
Intake lobe - 3016
Exhaust lobe - 3727
Cam events at .050:
IVO - 7 btdc
IVC - 43 abdc
EVO - 47 bbdc
EVC - 7 atdc
LSA - 109
Advance - +1
ICL - 108
ECL - 110
Overlap - 14 degrees
Why I chose these valve events..
IVO - LS engines w/ cathedral port heads like a later IVO, but I have stock size valves.. making me slightly undervalved compared to other head/cam cars, which means I should set the IVO a bit earlier. Also the heads are 227 cc runners which means velocity is lower than stock and high end aftermarket heads.
IVC - My manifold is a aluminum "plastic style" LS intake manifold that I'll be porting.. but those tend to peak around 6300.. so I want my IVC to be "tuned" with my intake manifold to reduce reversion. I have read an IVC of 43-46 is good for this style of manifold. I chose 43 because I want it to peak sooner rather than later.
EVO - I want to open it a tad sooner than my current cam to reduce pumping gas losses and increase low end torque.
EVC - This being at 7 also centers my overlap bias. I'm still not sure what this does.. but I know with 14 degrees overlap, my exhaust needs to be up to task. Should this lobe be bigger since my I/E ratio is only about a 74% average from .300 to .600?
LSA - Vizard's LSA to CI/Inch of valve diameter chart puts my 21.4 at 108. This chart is supposed to be for accurate for 9.0 to 11.0 compression. But I am concerned about PTV clearance and on the high side of his chart so I made it 1 degree more since higher compression likes a wider LSA..
My head flow:
lift --- intake - exhaust
.100 -- 71.4 --- 59.1
.200 - 146.1 -- 118.1
.300 - 212.5 -- 159.7
.400 - 250.3 -- 190.9
.500 - 280.7 -- 206.7
.550 - 291.2 -- 214.2
.600 - 299.8 -- 219.2
Intake should flow close to 280cfm when I am done porting it and set it up for a 90mm TB.
My exhaust is 1 3/4ths longtube headers stepped to 1 7/8ths with a 3 1/2" HVMC into a Y-pipe. The merge at the Y is going to be set-up to a parallel merge with a 4" I-pipe.
Compression is 10.85:1 (They are 243 castings cleaned up to 63cc's with a stock .052 compressed MLS gasket.) I do not at this time plan to take the heads off and mill and flycut.
My Question(s):
What would you change and why (what is effected?)?
Is my thinking way off on my reasoning?
Is any more data required?
Comp Cams (230/234 .612/.598)
Intake lobe - 3016
Exhaust lobe - 3727
Cam events at .050:
IVO - 7 btdc
IVC - 43 abdc
EVO - 47 bbdc
EVC - 7 atdc
LSA - 109
Advance - +1
ICL - 108
ECL - 110
Overlap - 14 degrees
Why I chose these valve events..
IVO - LS engines w/ cathedral port heads like a later IVO, but I have stock size valves.. making me slightly undervalved compared to other head/cam cars, which means I should set the IVO a bit earlier. Also the heads are 227 cc runners which means velocity is lower than stock and high end aftermarket heads.
IVC - My manifold is a aluminum "plastic style" LS intake manifold that I'll be porting.. but those tend to peak around 6300.. so I want my IVC to be "tuned" with my intake manifold to reduce reversion. I have read an IVC of 43-46 is good for this style of manifold. I chose 43 because I want it to peak sooner rather than later.
EVO - I want to open it a tad sooner than my current cam to reduce pumping gas losses and increase low end torque.
EVC - This being at 7 also centers my overlap bias. I'm still not sure what this does.. but I know with 14 degrees overlap, my exhaust needs to be up to task. Should this lobe be bigger since my I/E ratio is only about a 74% average from .300 to .600?
LSA - Vizard's LSA to CI/Inch of valve diameter chart puts my 21.4 at 108. This chart is supposed to be for accurate for 9.0 to 11.0 compression. But I am concerned about PTV clearance and on the high side of his chart so I made it 1 degree more since higher compression likes a wider LSA..
My head flow:
lift --- intake - exhaust
.100 -- 71.4 --- 59.1
.200 - 146.1 -- 118.1
.300 - 212.5 -- 159.7
.400 - 250.3 -- 190.9
.500 - 280.7 -- 206.7
.550 - 291.2 -- 214.2
.600 - 299.8 -- 219.2
Intake should flow close to 280cfm when I am done porting it and set it up for a 90mm TB.
My exhaust is 1 3/4ths longtube headers stepped to 1 7/8ths with a 3 1/2" HVMC into a Y-pipe. The merge at the Y is going to be set-up to a parallel merge with a 4" I-pipe.
Compression is 10.85:1 (They are 243 castings cleaned up to 63cc's with a stock .052 compressed MLS gasket.) I do not at this time plan to take the heads off and mill and flycut.
My Question(s):
What would you change and why (what is effected?)?
Is my thinking way off on my reasoning?
Is any more data required?
Last edited by Asmodeus; 08-29-2007 at 06:16 PM.
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IVC - My manifold is a aluminum "plastic style" LS intake manifold that I'll be porting.. but those tend to peak around 6300.. so I want my IVC to be "tuned" with my intake manifold to reduce reversion. I have read an IVC of 43-46 is good for this style of manifold. I chose 43 because I want it to peak sooner rather than later.
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Looks well thought out. I like that you've got your overlap centered over TDC. That should allow your motor to pull nicely past your power peak. I really like the XFI intake lobe. Should make excellent mid-range torque too (although opening the exhaust valve earlier does reduce pumping losses, but it actually hurts low end torque somewhat. It's more of a benefit to higher rpm).
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
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i'm with G-man. the only problem with your rationale is the exhaust opening part. with that, consider what you can do differently with that exhaust duration, if you want to emphasize torque.