SLP Firehawk

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just got done installing my kit from webelectronics and it was so easy. worked first time for me buy my battery was kinda dead so needed to charge it.

LilJayV10

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I have a STS kit originally made for third gens. I'm not for sure if it would work on my 4th gen or not.

wayneg1035

You guys that want LED's for this, Tell me the functionality you want and I'll modify my circuit for what you want. What I built already does 10 times what you want, but requires modification to the car. To make it do just what the 3 bulb kits do but with LED's would require no extra mods except an electronic flasher for the front signals and also a connection to the 3rd brake light wire by the back seat to keep the brakes from doing sequential if desired.

click for video

sjsingle1

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^^^

nice for the camaro guys.......but will it work on birds???

wayneg1035

We'll make it work, it's just 3 sets of led's to represent 3 bulbs and a computer chip to interface the cars outputs (turn signals, brake lights, park lights, and hazards) and tell the led's how to light up (pattern and brightness). It comes down to mounting the led's that would be the hurdle for now.

sjsingle1

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using a simple plug in interface with the stock wiring harness and add in standard (3157 ...etc) LEDs in the stock sockets?

wayneg1035

You know what forget it. You guys will cut, weld, fiberglass, bondo, remove an rebuild an engine, put a different transmission, add a blower, 500hp of nitrous, meth injection, dip your cars in plastic, but no, never would you cut a wire and maybe solder something.

I was just trying to help, yeah wait for best buy to sell something.

chaman

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Dafuq?

wssix99

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Lights are a highly regulated safety item on our cars, so messing with these takes a lot of R&D to do correctly. IMO - Cutting wires is a lot "less fun" if I have to do several hours of math and regulation reading to validate a design.

The video you posted looks like the lights aren't very bright. Did you confirm that you new design is in line with DOT requirements?

wayneg1035

The lights are brighter than the factory bulbs. They don't seem so bright because the tail lights have illegal night shade on them. The point is you can't expect not to cut wires if you want to change the functionality of the original car. How can 3 bulbs do 3 separate things when originally they did 1 thing wired together without cutting wires. I'm also sure any mod to the lights is not DOT approved and would be illegal including all 3 bulb sequential kits. What DOT regulation allows brake lights to sequential on? Regardless of how much research you do, even if they were bright enough, that doesn't make them legal or DOT approved, only DOT certification can do that. This is the case with all the HID kits out there too that are illegal.

As I said before I was just trying to offer a solution to the previous posts about an LED solution. I wasn't selling anything just offering some of my time and experience. I've learned plenty on these forums, copied other things guys have done, and it's all trickled into my camaro.

WS6 What

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Regardless of cutting lights and all. If done right, not a problem. Personally I would love to see a trans am w/ some sort of led tail lights. Its a whole lot of tail light to light up though. Would be interesting to see how it would light up and work on one.

wssix99

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I think this point got lost in the insult that contained it.


The lights aren't individually inspected and certified by the government, so there are many modifications that can be made. Sequential tail lights have been factory-installed on cars for decades. The regulations focus mainly on color, brightness, and location. Its also great bed time reading: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx....2.7.8&idno=49

sjsingle1

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i just like the idea of reverting back to stock if necessary.......my .02

but i do like what you have done !

i dont know where the back light wiring harness starts......but maybe a new harness from that point on to achieved the results?

nascarnate326

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Bumping this back up.

Are us 98-02 guys SOL on this subject?

I really don't want to switch to LT1 tails but would like my two red bulbs to flash in sequence similar to the 5th gen kit.

the website listed in this thread has nothing for 4th gen camaro.

any ideas?

ez2cdave

http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/fbody...sequential.htm

Crazed98Camaro

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Thought I would add this here:

wssix99

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Nice video.

BTW - Post #96 here shows how to slow down the electronic flasher and add a varesistor to control the speed.

InfiniteReality

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Figured I'd give this a bump from the dead, because sequential signals are awesome. I also have a question...

On my old '00 Firehawk, I had the original sequential tail lights form WE, the one where you have to cut the 194 opening to fit an 3157 socket/bulb. I see now they offer an easier option using a 921 bulb which is still a single filament, but higher wattage (18w). While this is definitely an easier solution, it still doesn't get as bright as a 3157 bulb (8.3w/27w). I can also tell this in the videos with the new module.

I'm guessing I'm just pretty OCD, but does it bother anyone with the different brightness on the outer bulbs?

wssix99

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Not since I stopped driving the car with my head sticking out the rear hatch.

wssix99

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Check out the video in post #96. It shows the new kit. It's a little hard to see on the video due to the reflection of the reflective elements in the housings and the angle of the camera, but you can't tell any difference in luminous intensity between the bulbs. (If you watch closely for the bright spots in the video, this is a little easier to see.)