TORCHD 02 TA's Detail
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TORCHD 02 TA's Detail
As many of you know, Jonas has been seeking that perfect finish and sadly hasn't had much luck. I offered to help out, free of charge, in hopes of being recognized in the Midwestern section as a professional detailer. If funds provide so, I hope in becoming a sponsor.
Now, Jonas' car is very clean with some light swirling followed by some deeper random, non-directional cuts. The car came in pretty much clean, but I still performed a wash-down and clayed the car. The clay bar removed almost nothing, except for a few particles from the front, (most likely from the drive). I noticed his hood's clearcoat was slightly lacking from depth and clarity. This is due to an aftermarket hood with a different paint job. The sail panels and side mirrors were repainted as well but oddly, they have much more clarity and depth.
I began using Mezerna Intensive Polish/Orange Pad and slowly but surely, swirls were being removed and some added clarity. Once the swirls were removed I noticed the random, non-directional cuts to be more prominent. This happens quite often because deeper scratches are masked behind swirls. Once the swirls are removed, the deeper embedded scratches stick out like a sore thumb. The Mezerna IP was able to round off the cuts making these deeper scratches less noticeable though.
Here is the first pass.
Now, I knew what kind of work I was in for. I did a second pass, spread the polish around on 3-4 and worked up to 5 on the speed setting.
Afterwards, I saw little-to-no micro-marring inflicted by the IP/Orange combo. I used a 50/50 IA/Water mix to remove the oil residue and saw some micro-marring. I followed up with the TC-8 on a white pad.
I am not 100% happy with the results. I was thinking, from Jonas' description of the paint, that all that was really needed was some IP to remove the light swirls but his paint is inflicted with some deeper scratches that are not within the cutting ability of the Mezerna. I am thinking I will have to purchase some more M105 to address the deeper scratches.
I was hoping for a more powerful before-and-after transformation but my efforts were minimal because he jus' had a professional detail. I was secretly hoping it was in worse shape so the transition would be even more eye-catching. Oh man, I feel like a bad person for saying that.
Now, Jonas' car is very clean with some light swirling followed by some deeper random, non-directional cuts. The car came in pretty much clean, but I still performed a wash-down and clayed the car. The clay bar removed almost nothing, except for a few particles from the front, (most likely from the drive). I noticed his hood's clearcoat was slightly lacking from depth and clarity. This is due to an aftermarket hood with a different paint job. The sail panels and side mirrors were repainted as well but oddly, they have much more clarity and depth.
I began using Mezerna Intensive Polish/Orange Pad and slowly but surely, swirls were being removed and some added clarity. Once the swirls were removed I noticed the random, non-directional cuts to be more prominent. This happens quite often because deeper scratches are masked behind swirls. Once the swirls are removed, the deeper embedded scratches stick out like a sore thumb. The Mezerna IP was able to round off the cuts making these deeper scratches less noticeable though.
Here is the first pass.
Now, I knew what kind of work I was in for. I did a second pass, spread the polish around on 3-4 and worked up to 5 on the speed setting.
Afterwards, I saw little-to-no micro-marring inflicted by the IP/Orange combo. I used a 50/50 IA/Water mix to remove the oil residue and saw some micro-marring. I followed up with the TC-8 on a white pad.
I am not 100% happy with the results. I was thinking, from Jonas' description of the paint, that all that was really needed was some IP to remove the light swirls but his paint is inflicted with some deeper scratches that are not within the cutting ability of the Mezerna. I am thinking I will have to purchase some more M105 to address the deeper scratches.
I was hoping for a more powerful before-and-after transformation but my efforts were minimal because he jus' had a professional detail. I was secretly hoping it was in worse shape so the transition would be even more eye-catching. Oh man, I feel like a bad person for saying that.
Last edited by 02TransAm/Batmobile; 10-09-2012 at 07:08 PM.
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Hahah James thanks again for your help!!!
I keep telling everyone that my car is excellent shape... But I guess those little tiny "scratches" are a PITA... You can't even fill them with a finger nail.. Although you did mention you were able to feel a couple...
I jsut want my paint to be clear, look wet and have depth...
Hey my wheels look like they have water spots on them.. I hope you clean those before I pick up my car
I am sure that I will be happy.... Would and SIP be better than an IP??? Is there anyway to get those "scratches" that aren't to noticable out?
Thanks again for your efforts
After I get the car back. What products do you recommend to up keep the paint? What should I do to the car after I come back from the driving the car? How and what should I use to wipe it down? Wash mitts you recommend?
I keep telling everyone that my car is excellent shape... But I guess those little tiny "scratches" are a PITA... You can't even fill them with a finger nail.. Although you did mention you were able to feel a couple...
I jsut want my paint to be clear, look wet and have depth...
Hey my wheels look like they have water spots on them.. I hope you clean those before I pick up my car
I am sure that I will be happy.... Would and SIP be better than an IP??? Is there anyway to get those "scratches" that aren't to noticable out?
Thanks again for your efforts
After I get the car back. What products do you recommend to up keep the paint? What should I do to the car after I come back from the driving the car? How and what should I use to wipe it down? Wash mitts you recommend?
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That's what I wanted to talk with you about. Before I go and finish the car, I wanted to ask you if you want to post pone 'til I purchase some M105. This will address the deeper scratches.
This is from the top of my head, can't recall the exact figures but:
M105 removes 1200-1400 grit scratches
M IP removes 2000 grit scratches
The Mezerna SIP is only SLIGHTLY more aggresive than the original IP. As an added bonus to me it works faster and as I've learned here, it also spreads easier.
This is from the top of my head, can't recall the exact figures but:
M105 removes 1200-1400 grit scratches
M IP removes 2000 grit scratches
The Mezerna SIP is only SLIGHTLY more aggresive than the original IP. As an added bonus to me it works faster and as I've learned here, it also spreads easier.
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That's what I wanted to talk with you about. Before I go and finish the car, I wanted to ask you if you want to post pone 'til I purchase some M105. This will address the deeper scratches.
This is from the top of my head, can't recall the exact figures but:
M105 removes 1200-1400 grit scratches
M IP removes 2000 grit scratches
The Mezerna SIP is only SLIGHTLY more aggresive than the original IP. As an added bonus to me it works faster and as I've learned here, it also spreads easier.
This is from the top of my head, can't recall the exact figures but:
M105 removes 1200-1400 grit scratches
M IP removes 2000 grit scratches
The Mezerna SIP is only SLIGHTLY more aggresive than the original IP. As an added bonus to me it works faster and as I've learned here, it also spreads easier.
Help me out. I want to maintain your work.. I want it to be clear and look flawless
If you want to talk, gimme a call. I am up all night. I am working till 5 am
Did you make any more progress to other panels of the car?
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I PMd you back.. I trust ya man, I will let you hold onto the car.. No joy rides though
Do you think the M105 will get the vibrant, shiny, wet and deep look that I want after you clean up the paint?
let me know
Do you think the M105 will get the vibrant, shiny, wet and deep look that I want after you clean up the paint?
let me know
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Wow Great work!..Hey man, maybe you could help out another Chi-town guy with my Black Z28. The person I bought this car from looks like he tryed detailing the car by himself and put swirls all over the car. Any chance I you could look at it or help would be awsome. Please PM me ASAP if you are interested.
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+1 on that.....to this day, granted I've only done 20-25 cars, there has been NOTHING that required something other than 105/205. That combo, with the right pads, will do work on anything out there!
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I can't wait to see the car after the M105 is done.. Hopefully that will clear up the paint nicely
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Sorry guys, detail is post-poned for the time being. I am currently waiting for some M105 to arrive.
Your car in it's current state is pretty-well maintained and has a deep, wet shine already. Only real issue is some faint swirls. The IP, while removing the swirls, added some more clarity though. I'm jus' trying to be realistic. The before-and-after isn't going to be as big of a transformation compared to one that has oxidation, heavy swirling, and heavy scratches.
Again, I'm kinda bummed that your car wasn't in worse condition!
Your car in it's current state is pretty-well maintained and has a deep, wet shine already. Only real issue is some faint swirls. The IP, while removing the swirls, added some more clarity though. I'm jus' trying to be realistic. The before-and-after isn't going to be as big of a transformation compared to one that has oxidation, heavy swirling, and heavy scratches.
Again, I'm kinda bummed that your car wasn't in worse condition!
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Sorry guys, detail is post-poned for the time being. I am currently waiting for some M105 to arrive.
Your car in it's current state is pretty-well maintained and has a deep, wet shine already. Only real issue is some faint swirls. The IP, while removing the swirls, added some more clarity though. I'm jus' trying to be realistic. The before-and-after isn't going to be as big of a transformation compared to one that has oxidation, heavy swirling, and heavy scratches.
Again, I'm kinda bummed that your car wasn't in worse condition!
Your car in it's current state is pretty-well maintained and has a deep, wet shine already. Only real issue is some faint swirls. The IP, while removing the swirls, added some more clarity though. I'm jus' trying to be realistic. The before-and-after isn't going to be as big of a transformation compared to one that has oxidation, heavy swirling, and heavy scratches.
Again, I'm kinda bummed that your car wasn't in worse condition!
Well glad you think the paint is deep and wet looking. I want wetter, deeper lol...
So how do you keep the car in the garage from getting dust on it? Do you cover it up? B/C I'm sure you wipe it down before you work on it again
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Hey James, if your sitting looking out the front window of the car, you know how you can see the back of the hood?? Remember on the thicker portions of the hood I pointed out some spots that the paint that looked rough and wasn't clear? Is there anyway that you can make that clearer?
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Hey James, if your sitting looking out the front window of the car, you know how you can see the back of the hood?? Remember on the thicker portions of the hood I pointed out some spots that the paint that looked rough and wasn't clear? Is there anyway that you can make that clearer?
Here is an example:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...pic-heavy.html
This image is from GoFast90's Detail of a car that was repainted and the clear coat lacked clarity.
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