BLS 93-97 Camaro Bi-Xenon Projector Retrofit - Install Pics!
12-11-2011, 03:28 PM
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they look great! definitely ready to buy a set!
the only thing that worries me a little is the install. i'm running a procharger, and i got all sorts of plumbing running through the bottom of my car including inside the front bumper. might be very difficult for me if some things must be done through the bottom. is it possible to get an electronic copy of the install instruction once you have it written out all nicely with pictures? don't know if you can post it on here?
definitely want a set, but would like to know how difficult it will be for me personally since i have a bunch of aftermarket stuff taking up space that is empty on a stock car.
the only thing that worries me a little is the install. i'm running a procharger, and i got all sorts of plumbing running through the bottom of my car including inside the front bumper. might be very difficult for me if some things must be done through the bottom. is it possible to get an electronic copy of the install instruction once you have it written out all nicely with pictures? don't know if you can post it on here?
definitely want a set, but would like to know how difficult it will be for me personally since i have a bunch of aftermarket stuff taking up space that is empty on a stock car.
12-11-2011, 03:33 PM
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they look great! definitely ready to buy a set!
the only thing that worries me a little is the install. i'm running a procharger, and i got all sorts of plumbing running through the bottom of my car including inside the front bumper. might be very difficult for me if some things must be done through the bottom. is it possible to get an electronic copy of the install instruction once you have it written out all nicely with pictures? don't know if you can post it on here?
definitely want a set, but would like to know how difficult it will be for me personally since i have a bunch of aftermarket stuff taking up space that is empty on a stock car.
the only thing that worries me a little is the install. i'm running a procharger, and i got all sorts of plumbing running through the bottom of my car including inside the front bumper. might be very difficult for me if some things must be done through the bottom. is it possible to get an electronic copy of the install instruction once you have it written out all nicely with pictures? don't know if you can post it on here?
definitely want a set, but would like to know how difficult it will be for me personally since i have a bunch of aftermarket stuff taking up space that is empty on a stock car.
I have a procharger as well and can understand the amount of piping those systems take up. Are you running a front mount intercooler or the twins? If you can see the back of the headlights from the bottom of the car, then you should not have a problem. On the top side, you may have to remove your main charge pipe to access the area behind the drivers side headlight. It can be accessed from the bottom as well.
12-11-2011, 03:47 PM
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i'm running the twins. i don't have the bottom plastic splash panels anymore cause that's where the twins sit.
i'll have to take a look under there later today, hopefully i can see some daylight, or figure out some way where i can get some combo of extensions and joints to work. i just know trying to change out the front marker bulbs leaves my forearms looking like i got into a fight with an angry cat and lost, haha. i'm of a thin build though, so i can get into some places that look impossible to get into, haha.
i'll have to take a look under there later today, hopefully i can see some daylight, or figure out some way where i can get some combo of extensions and joints to work. i just know trying to change out the front marker bulbs leaves my forearms looking like i got into a fight with an angry cat and lost, haha. i'm of a thin build though, so i can get into some places that look impossible to get into, haha.
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12-11-2011, 05:35 PM
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Could I buy a un-assembled kit or just the brackets to use my own projectors so I can modify the cut-offs and foreground limiter etc. The problem I see is using the fog lights as well. You may get pulled over for a police officer thinking your high beams are on and alot of places limiting your vehicle to having 4 lights on at a certain time. Congrats on doing the work and if I pick up another camaro this year instead of a transam you have a customer right here.
12-11-2011, 06:05 PM
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Could I buy a un-assembled kit or just the brackets to use my own projectors so I can modify the cut-offs and foreground limiter etc. The problem I see is using the fog lights as well. You may get pulled over for a police officer thinking your high beams are on and alot of places limiting your vehicle to having 4 lights on at a certain time. Congrats on doing the work and if I pick up another camaro this year instead of a transam you have a customer right here.
As for the issue of all four lights being on, the wiring would not be horribly difficult to modify. You could run the low beam position projectors and then have the highs come on when you hit the switch. If you want, you could also run halogen lamps in the high beam projectors rather than a HID lamp to be operated just as a described.
These can be offered without a HID kit if others wanted to source their own components. The harness and associated connectors would be recommended so everything works as it should.
12-11-2011, 06:26 PM
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I was just wondering as I have done my own retrofits in my Subaru and I am hopefully going to be starting to work on making my own cut offs and what not. What are they using something like mini h1's or d2s's?
12-11-2011, 09:14 PM
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That's a nice clean install. 
However, I'm concerned that having all 4 on at once may be too much foreground light which will make things in front of you look really bright but stuff in the distance look darker (effectively limiting distance vision).
Can you take pics with just 2 on and do the back forth flip gif with stock/2-on/4-on?
Or maybe add a foreground limiter (or a more aggressive one it there is one already) on the inner (high beam location) ones so more light is in the distance and not so much right in front. Might also be a good idea to aim them lightly differently (basically aim the inner ones slightly higher and narrower with the outer ones slightly lower and wider but all 4 still within proper aiming spec).
Sorry if I sound demanding or critical, I'm just trying to help to make sure its as good as it can be. If I had a 1993-1997 Camaro, I would be interested in buying a set (but I have a 2001 Firebird with a custom projector setup).
Keep up the good work.
However, I'm concerned that having all 4 on at once may be too much foreground light which will make things in front of you look really bright but stuff in the distance look darker (effectively limiting distance vision).
Can you take pics with just 2 on and do the back forth flip gif with stock/2-on/4-on?
Or maybe add a foreground limiter (or a more aggressive one it there is one already) on the inner (high beam location) ones so more light is in the distance and not so much right in front. Might also be a good idea to aim them lightly differently (basically aim the inner ones slightly higher and narrower with the outer ones slightly lower and wider but all 4 still within proper aiming spec).
Sorry if I sound demanding or critical, I'm just trying to help to make sure its as good as it can be. If I had a 1993-1997 Camaro, I would be interested in buying a set (but I have a 2001 Firebird with a custom projector setup).
Keep up the good work.
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12-11-2011, 09:56 PM
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That's a nice clean install.
However, I'm concerned that having all 4 on at once may be too much foreground light which will make things in front of you look really bright but stuff in the distance look darker (effectively limiting distance vision).
Can you take pics with just 2 on and do the back forth flip gif with stock/2-on/4-on?
Or maybe add a foreground limiter (or a more aggressive one it there is one already) on the inner (high beam location) ones so more light is in the distance and not so much right in front. Might also be a good idea to aim them lightly differently (basically aim the inner ones slightly higher and narrower with the outer ones slightly lower and wider but all 4 still within proper aiming spec).
Sorry if I sound demanding or critical, I'm just trying to help to make sure its as good as it can be. If I had a 1993-1997 Camaro, I would be interested in buying a set (but I have a 2001 Firebird with a custom projector setup).
Keep up the good work.
However, I'm concerned that having all 4 on at once may be too much foreground light which will make things in front of you look really bright but stuff in the distance look darker (effectively limiting distance vision).
Can you take pics with just 2 on and do the back forth flip gif with stock/2-on/4-on?
Or maybe add a foreground limiter (or a more aggressive one it there is one already) on the inner (high beam location) ones so more light is in the distance and not so much right in front. Might also be a good idea to aim them lightly differently (basically aim the inner ones slightly higher and narrower with the outer ones slightly lower and wider but all 4 still within proper aiming spec).
Sorry if I sound demanding or critical, I'm just trying to help to make sure its as good as it can be. If I had a 1993-1997 Camaro, I would be interested in buying a set (but I have a 2001 Firebird with a custom projector setup).
Keep up the good work.
Having just two headlights on was softer (read: less intense) but we simply forgot to block off two of the lights and take a picture. I will see if our buddy with the camera and the car owner will take some additional pics. We can work to tweak the output a bit but as mentioned, we are going to test these out for a few weeks before anything is put up for sale.
Our additional goal is to bring the price down as much as we can. The housing material and machine work is where much of the cost is so if we get that reduced, the savings can be passed on to potential customers.
Just to reiterate, the customer can choose to purchase just two of the housings and does not need all four. As you know, this is a challenging market however the one nice bonus is it doesn't take much to blow away the stock headlights.
Here is a pic with the same camera used for our other headlight kit pictures. It may give a little bit different perspective.
12-12-2011, 02:51 AM
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i took a look at the bottom of my car and know exactly the area you guys are talking about to get to the headlights from the bottom. that's exactly where my twin intercoolers sit, hahaha. for anybody that is procharged with the twin setup, it's a 100% no-go from the bottom. unless you want to take that all off which is a pain in the bleep (i did the install, and many a cussing was done during, haha, on a lift it would be easier to do that but still no simple task).
that being said, i looked at the top and i'm pretty confident if you take out all the stock stuff and then install the low beam area first, that with the right tools it can be done without damaging anything. i have no idea which tools those would be until i see the instruction and exactly how they hook up to the headlight panel and adjust.
i'm guessing these adjust from the back? which might mean, you need to be happy about low beam install and adjustment before you move to the high beam position install (if installing through top). again, i'm just guessing.
i'm still very much in for a hid quad set though. i've been waiting too long, and this looks like such a great upgrade once installed.
that being said, i looked at the top and i'm pretty confident if you take out all the stock stuff and then install the low beam area first, that with the right tools it can be done without damaging anything. i have no idea which tools those would be until i see the instruction and exactly how they hook up to the headlight panel and adjust.
i'm guessing these adjust from the back? which might mean, you need to be happy about low beam install and adjustment before you move to the high beam position install (if installing through top). again, i'm just guessing.
i'm still very much in for a hid quad set though. i've been waiting too long, and this looks like such a great upgrade once installed.
12-12-2011, 07:53 PM
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i took a look at the bottom of my car and know exactly the area you guys are talking about to get to the headlights from the bottom. that's exactly where my twin intercoolers sit, hahaha. for anybody that is procharged with the twin setup, it's a 100% no-go from the bottom. unless you want to take that all off which is a pain in the bleep (i did the install, and many a cussing was done during, haha, on a lift it would be easier to do that but still no simple task).
that being said, i looked at the top and i'm pretty confident if you take out all the stock stuff and then install the low beam area first, that with the right tools it can be done without damaging anything. i have no idea which tools those would be until i see the instruction and exactly how they hook up to the headlight panel and adjust.
i'm guessing these adjust from the back? which might mean, you need to be happy about low beam install and adjustment before you move to the high beam position install (if installing through top). again, i'm just guessing.
i'm still very much in for a hid quad set though. i've been waiting too long, and this looks like such a great upgrade once installed.
that being said, i looked at the top and i'm pretty confident if you take out all the stock stuff and then install the low beam area first, that with the right tools it can be done without damaging anything. i have no idea which tools those would be until i see the instruction and exactly how they hook up to the headlight panel and adjust.
i'm guessing these adjust from the back? which might mean, you need to be happy about low beam install and adjustment before you move to the high beam position install (if installing through top). again, i'm just guessing.
i'm still very much in for a hid quad set though. i've been waiting too long, and this looks like such a great upgrade once installed.
If you are doing the install, it will be recommended you work on the low beams first before moving onto the highs. You get some space when removing the high beams.
Looking forward to earning your business!
I don't see why we couldn't offer them like that and the projectors take H1 lamps.
12-12-2011, 09:55 PM
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I have the twin intercoolers as well but this on a Firebird, not a Camaro so its good you mentioned this. The housings are fastened to the headlight panel from the backside so space is limited. It may be just easier to remove the front bumper for someone like yourself and your mods.
If you are doing the install, it will be recommended you work on the low beams first before moving onto the highs. You get some space when removing the high beams.
Looking forward to earning your business!
If you are doing the install, it will be recommended you work on the low beams first before moving onto the highs. You get some space when removing the high beams.
Looking forward to earning your business!
if i install these on my car, it's gonna have to be from the top. if Shownomercy did it, then it's gotta be possible. i really don't mind spending another 100 bucks or whatever, if that's what it takes, on some special small tools or something. much easier to do that then deal with dropping the intercoolers or bumper.
i wish i knew what kind of hardware was back there so i could plan and be ready for when they go on sale. would be nice if you could share a close up pic behind the housing or share what size and type of hardware i will need to tighten down. it's cool though, if you can't yet release that info until these go on sale.