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Old 08-23-2016, 11:18 PM
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Default 1999 Camaro SS fog light upgrade: HID projectors

We all know that Camaro fog lights suck. There are few direct replacements out there and most of them suck.
I even looked into the C5 Corvette replacements, and they are just a slightly nicer and more expensive version of suck.

The Hella Micro DE's seem nice but I don't like the way they look and I'm cheap.

Upon searching the internet for options, I came across these at AliExpress:
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Bi-xenon HID fog light projectors. They measure a little bigger than the OEM Blazers, but not by a lot, so I went ahead and ordered a set.
I spent a little under $80 for them, but I looked again today and if you search for iphcar fog, you can find them for around $58 with free shipping.

It took almost 2 weeks to get them, but today my package from China showed up.
Here is what I received:
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The projectors are made of sturdy feeling aluminum and have a thick and visually clear glass lense.
The housings are sealed, except for a couple screened vents for moisture to escape. They look like pretty good quality units and come with a couple mounting bracket solutions and a set of inexpensive HID bulbs. I chose the 6000k bulbs. Ballasts are not included.

They are bi-xenon, so there are two wires (red/black) to actuate the cutoff shield inside the projector if low beam/high beam functions are required. Take care with these wires, as they are quite thin and fragile.

Since these are fog lights, the cutoff is straight as opposed to stepped like in a headlight projector.

I started off by removing one of the OEM foglights and bracket. Here is an inside measurement of the OEM fog light bracket:
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Here is an outside measurement of one of the new Projectors:
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The OEM bracket only needed some minor bending to fit onto the new projector. I did however need to clearance a small corner area on the bracket due to some interference:
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The bracket then bolted right on to the new projector. Here are a couple of old light vs new light comparison shots:
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It's crazy how much bigger the new projector is but still fits in the same physical space as the old one.

I'm waiting on a set of ballasts from TheRetrofitSource before I put the new lights in the car, but I wanted to test the light output to see how much of a difference they will actually make.

I powered up the OEM fog light first:
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My phone doesn't truely capture how dim and yellow and sad these things really are.

Then using a spare generic HID ballast I had in my toolbox, I powered up the new projectors:

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Again, my phone doesn't capture the staggering difference in light output between the two. It is literally night and day.

My package from TheRetrofitSource should be here in a day or two. At that time, I'll finish the install and post some final pictures.

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Old 08-24-2016, 04:08 AM
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Thanks for the write up. Does the chrome show much once it's mounted?
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wow , what a difference.
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:44 AM
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I installed the lights today and everything went smoothly. It's just like putting the factory ones in.

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My phone takes terrible night pictures, but I took a couple quick shots tonight. The pictures really don't show it but the fogs are very bright, brighter than my Morimoto projector headlights by a fair amount.

The fog lights are not quite perfectly level. I need to loosen the bolts that hold the bracket on and adjust them a tiny bit.

Fogs only:

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Fogs + low beams:

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Front shot - fogs only:

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Front shot fogs + low beams:

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Sorry about the crap quality pics. They really are pretty impressive in person. For the money I would highly recommend these to anyone tired of the poor factory fogs.
I spent $78 for the projectors with bulbs and $60 for Acme ballasts from theretrofitsource.com for a total of $138.

Using the iphcar listing on AliExpress for the projectors and a pair of generic Chinese ballasts, one could do the same thing to their car for about $90.

Well worth it in my opinion.

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Thanks so much for posting. Saving this thread in my personal files.
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28 View Post
Thanks so much for posting. Saving this thread in my personal files.
No problem.

Only 3 comments on this? Must only be Firebird guys who come in here...
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yeah these would compliment my retrofitted headlights very well... although I cant get them at the moment since I just bought Export taillights
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Very nice! Will be looking into doing this soon!
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I like that...
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Looks cool. Though personally it would be way too much foreground for me and would kill any distance vision your eyes adjust to when using high beams. I have MH1 7.0s and my halogen high beams together. I want to add some long-distance driving lights behind my billet grill since I live in the country and drive straight back roads.

I actually just swapped my 5500k bulbs out for 4500k. The 5500's were just burning my eyes out driving at night. The colour was too harsh for me and made it difficult to see foliage and green things. I need to replace my housings, so I'm probably going to swap projectors for something OEM, or the new MD2S 4.0's coming.

The output on the stock Blazers is better when you use 50w bulbs (I believe I'm using 886 instead of 894). Yours look really splotchy for some reason; mine have a razor sharp cutoff. For night driving, I find they just add to much foreground again and don't use them. I actually sprayed the lenses amber with glass paint and use them only as DRLs. But seeing as I cracked a lens with a rock... I'll need to throw something in. Maybe Morimoto LED fogs?

I've always thought about doing some lighting projects. Even if they're not practical or really benefit me. I just love lighting. It's always cool to see others doing real retrofits.
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Nice work. I always wanted to put stronger foglights on my T/A's so I could keep the headlights down at night. I have a few projectors lying around that came out of Volvo semitruck headlights. I never got around to messing with them. Maybe a project for my next F-Body.
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Old thread but can you tell me about the wiring ? Is it a plug and play ?
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Originally Posted by z28pat View Post
Old thread but can you tell me about the wiring ? Is it a plug and play ?
yeah. I bought the speedy start ballasts from the retrofit source and they seem to fire up just fine on my car without a relay kit. A relay kit is always a good idea but I was in a hurry and didn't want to mess with even more wiring and it has worked out fine so far.
I don't really regret doing this mod, but if I had to do it over again, I honestly probably wouldn't. These are like twice as bright as my low beams and it is a bit annoying at night having so much foreground illumination.
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Old 10-02-2017, 11:52 AM
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jimmy do you mind posting a picture of the drivers view down a street with those Fogs?
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i ordered these for $60 yesterday. Can't wait to throw them in. I have HID's in my stock fogs and they are utterly useless. I already have HID retrofits in the headlights
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i ordered these for $60 yesterday. Can't wait to throw them in. I have HID's in my stock fogs and they are utterly useless. I already have HID retrofits in the headlights
Cool! Keep us posted!
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