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Old 12-20-2008, 08:08 AM
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Default WOT 2-3 shift wont go 4l80e tuning or trans?

I have a 02 T/A with the 80 swap and since getting it installed it will not shift 2-3 WOT until i let off the throttle. I have tried everything i can with the tune and have been working with Steve(Frost) on this. Could this be trans related? If so where to start trouble shooting?
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stock pcm reflashed to a 80 bin
Old 12-20-2008, 07:30 PM
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I have moved the speed from 0-72 MPH and set the RPM from 3k-6k but it just will not go. If you have a way i can post up a bin and a run from my car
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you dont have the downshift mph higher than the upshift do you?
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I will check that, but i do not believe so...
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tell me what plugs you have plugged in and what numbers in the computer. i had a similiar problem

front conn/turbine speed???????

rear conn/vss?????????????
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It could be trans related, it is it a fresh build? Have you looked at the fluid to see if it's burned, or checked line pressure?
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20/21 to rear vss

22/23 to front/turbine speed
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Connectors are correct i already checked with Frost on that. The downshift MPH looks good. I am wondering if it is trans related. It was a stock used unit out of a truck.
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i doubt it...but hopefully you will find the gremlin soon
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What are you tuning it with?

If you're scanning using hptuners you can open the VCM tools, click the trans tab, put it in OD and shift it manually from the laptop by clicking 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th under A4 gear select.

Should eliminate anything tune related. In other words if it shifts normal by doing this, then the tune is messed up.

Doesn't sound like a trans mechanical problem, unless maybe it's vacuum modulated.
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Well it shifts fine at part throttle and as soon as you lift on WOT it shifts fine. Unfortunately i have no one to do the tuning while i am beating on it. I have HPtuners. I am not VM.
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can you upload the tune here?

I just did one and deleted it, so it is possible.

Click post reply, click manage attachments.

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...s-limiter.html

I posted them here.

Here is the tune in there now
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lsx tune2.hpt (467.2 KB, 326 views)

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Whats the stall speed?
next time you log a run can you add the current gear PID.
It looks like either the trans is slipping or it has a high stall speed. Looking at this it would help to have the current gear pid to look at because the rpm vs gear vs mph looks weird. And thats calculating it on a seperate calculator, using your rear gear, trans ratio, and tire size shown.
If it's transmission slip then it could be mechanical.
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I don't think it is slip because the car/tranny drives great 1-2 and 3-4 are great and 2-3 at part throttle is a nice hard firm shift.

I uploaded those PID's and will log a run tomorrow.

It's a 3500 stall
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well it is tune related. i zero'd out the MPH blocks in full throttle and got it to shift 2-3 WOT. I will post up the log when i get back from a few more runs. Now what could be the problem with the tune? Think it is from when HPTuners did the segment swap?
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Not sure if this will help you or not.
I just did a few scans. I added the Trans Shift Mode PID by mistake, but I realized it tells you what table the trans shifted from. Whether it shifted off the WOT RPM table or the WOT Shift Speed table.

FYI- It references WOT on the PID, but uses Full Throttle on the tuning tables.
Maybe this might help.
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I will try to add that PID.

here is the log from the other day with WOT MPH at zero


But what would cause the tune to not shift when it is going by MPH and RPM/WOT? I checked the tranny MPH and it is within .3MPH to the speedo.
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first WOT 2-3 shift.hpl (12.5 KB, 256 views)
File Type: hpt
lsx2 my changes.hpt (467.2 KB, 193 views)
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