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git_sum 02-02-2004 07:17 PM

How streetable?
 
I was wondering how streetable a 3500stall torque converter is. Also whats the difference in locking them and not looking them? I've never driven a stall converted car and am kinda new to the whole subject. Any advice would be helpful, i'm looking to get a stall to go with a cam thats around the same size as a tr224 with a 112lsa

Ragtop 99 02-02-2004 08:27 PM

With 3.23 gears, a 3500 true stall is very streetable and can be a bit loose with 2.73s (but still quite enjoyable). Looseness varies by model and brand.

All late model automatics use a lock-up to reduce rpm and improve fuel economy as part of normal driving. Some people lock their converter in 3rd gear at high rpms. With your set-up you should not need to lock-up a quality 3500 stall converter.

git_sum 02-02-2004 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
With 3.23 gears, a 3500 true stall is very streetable and can be a bit loose with 2.73s (but still quite enjoyable). Looseness varies by model and brand.

All late model automatics use a lock-up to reduce rpm and improve fuel economy as part of normal driving. Some people lock their converter in 3rd gear at high rpms. With your set-up you should not need to lock-up a quality 3500 stall converter.

A quality stall converter being what? What brand, model... Also how hard would it be to drive under a 30mph speed limit. I also thought about going with a fidanza aluminum flywheel when i change the converter, is that a wise decision or not. I know hte lighter flywheel will allow it to rev faster and will reduce drivetrain hp loss.

waterbug1999 02-04-2004 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
With 3.23 gears, a 3500 true stall is very streetable and can be a bit loose with 2.73s (but still quite enjoyable). Looseness varies by model and brand.

All late model automatics use a lock-up to reduce rpm and improve fuel economy as part of normal driving. Some people lock their converter in 3rd gear at high rpms. With your set-up you should not need to lock-up a quality 3500 stall converter.


Next mod for me is a TCI 3500.. Now what do you mean by "loose". As in tires & traction or as in lot of RPM's to get going kinda loose? Just wondering if i need to buy 3:73's when i go with the TC. Thanks

boomcase 02-04-2004 06:13 PM

Loose means it will feel like you have to give it alot more gas to get it moving on normal driving. That would be the slipping of the converter , And no you do not have to change your rear end gears, a converter will take sometime to get used to but it is a great mod , best for use A4 guys and will compliment your mods. A nice set of drag radials will be needed to get the car to somewhat hookup, but nothing beats blowing the tires away around 25mph :devil:

waterbug1999 02-04-2004 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by boomcase
Loose means it will feel like you have to give it alot more gas to get it moving on normal driving. That would be the slipping of the converter , And no you do not have to change your rear end gears, a converter will take sometime to get used to but it is a great mod , best for use A4 guys and will compliment your mods. A nice set of drag radials will be needed to get the car to somewhat hookup, but nothing beats blowing the tires away around 25mph :devil:

So, 3:73's will only complimant the TC?

BYOFICR 02-04-2004 06:33 PM

I got a TCI SSF 3500 w/ 2.5str and couldnt be happier, I raised the idle a bit with my cam and I have 3.23's. It is perfectly streetable. I will be selling it within a week or two, it has less than 2k miles on it if anyone is interested and wants dibs :)

waterbug1999 02-04-2004 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by BYOFICR
I got a TCI SSF 3500 w/ 2.5str and couldnt be happier, I raised the idle a bit with my cam and I have 3.23's. It is perfectly streetable. I will be selling it within a week or two, it has less than 2k miles on it if anyone is interested and wants dibs :)

What comes stock with the A4's? And why you gettin rid of your TC?

BYOFICR 02-04-2004 06:44 PM

stock converter I have heard being anything from 1600-1900 (depends on who you ask). I am getting rid of mine b/c I am putting the car back to stock.

waterbug1999 02-04-2004 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by BYOFICR
stock converter I have heard being anything from 1600-1900 (depends on who you ask). I am getting rid of mine b/c I am putting the car back to stock.

depending on if i have the money the same time you will be selling it i will be interested.. You have the cooler too? If so, what might you be asking?

waterbug1999 02-04-2004 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by BYOFICR
stock converter I have heard being anything from 1600-1900 (depends on who you ask). I am getting rid of mine b/c I am putting the car back to stock.

just got pm.

Pete2k_Z28 02-04-2004 09:01 PM

Yank 3600SS with 3.42's in a full weight car.

Best mod I've ever done, still 110% streetable. Should have come this way from the factory!

BizZzatch350 02-05-2004 12:19 AM

I have a Vig 3200 in my 3.23 LT1, it stalls a little bit higher than that, cars 100% streetable. It doesnt want to roll forward much, thats the main ting I had to get used to.

boomcase 02-05-2004 06:39 AM

If you currently have 323 gears I would not change them, gears are only gonna give you maybe a 1/10 to 1 1/2 tenths in the quarter and your gas milage will drop. To me not worth it , if you have 273s then 342s is the ideal street strip gear, great drivabilty and performance. I will be installing a TCI 3800 stall as soon as it gets warmer , Kevin winstead at tci is hooking me up , If you have any questions give him a call, very nice guy and good at what he does.

git_sum 02-05-2004 05:05 PM

well i'm thinking about the ssf3500 now because i've heard so many good things about it, but i'm still not real sure how the hole stall thing works. I've never drove nor riden in a vehicle that had a stall so i odn't know what to expect. So will it always take off at 3500rpms or what? Oh and how easy it to drive around in like parking lots?


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