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Old 09-22-2012, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sjsingle1
so where to get this fluid?
Hygard you can get from any John Deere dealer.
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Is using Hygaurd rather new to the auto crowd? Never heard of it. Not doubting anyone here. Funny this topic has come up because I am currently doing a conversion install using a 4l60e and just checking the stick for color and smell and it was clear and smelled like hydraulic fluid. I thought I was losing my mind. Maybe not. I was told it was built for heavy nitrous use so, maybe someone was in the know.
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Amazing how some people post with no knowledge and are so stubborn rather than wanting to learn.

I think JustinsWS6 owes the op an apology.

And OP i've been using hydro for years, play with your ratios to get converter slip and stall speed where you want it.
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Originally Posted by 2nd Gen Fl 'bird
Is using Hygaurd rather new to the auto crowd? Never heard of it. Not doubting anyone here. Funny this topic has come up because I am currently doing a conversion install using a 4l60e and just checking the stick for color and smell and it was clear and smelled like hydraulic fluid. I thought I was losing my mind. Maybe not. I was told it was built for heavy nitrous use so, maybe someone was in the know.

Nothing new, just always shot down by people why think its dumb with no data.

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Only concern I would have with running the Hygard or any other fluid that is heavier than standard automatic trans fluid is to be careful when it's cold. The thicker fluid is more difficult to draw thru the filter.
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Thanks guys for the input. I was told by a very good trans builder that it could be ran in this transmission with no problems. Always nice to hear from real people that it's been done with good results. No need for the apology from anyone. Most of the time you go by what people tell you without doing research. I'm fine with that. That's why I asked the question
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i ran john deere hyguard in my built C4...snappier shifts, lower temps and tightened up the converter a little....its $60 for a 5 gallon bucket....way cheaper than ATF
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Originally Posted by blacktransam
Amazing how some people post with no knowledge and are so stubborn rather than wanting to learn.

I think JustinsWS6 owes the op an apology.

And OP i've been using hydro for years, play with your ratios to get converter slip and stall speed where you want it.
Just to be clear, you're saying for instance, you have a 3800 stall and want a little less(about 3500) you can change the ratios in Hygaurd to do this?
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Yes that's exactly what i'm saying, it will tighten a converter, reduce big end slippage and generally run cooler.

just make sure you run SOME atf for color. Hydro fluid is a mother to see on a dipstick
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LOL on the first 3 dumbasses that have no idea what they are talking about. GTFO

Been running hygard for YEARS, since its free at the farm
my completely stock 4l60 no problems running low 11s at 120, no problems, drive it daily
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Originally Posted by Grr
LOL on the first 3 dumbasses that have no idea what they are talking about. GTFO

Been running hygard for YEARS, since its free at the farm
my completely stock 4l60 no problems running low 11s at 120, no problems, drive it daily
THIS!!!^^^ You read my mind with your first sentence!

I've used it in several transmissions...NO issues.
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Originally Posted by blacktransam
Yes that's exactly what i'm saying, it will tighten a converter, reduce big end slippage and generally run cooler.

just make sure you run SOME atf for color. Hydro fluid is a mother to see on a dipstick
Damn good info, thanks.
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Originally Posted by mike13
Only concern I would have with running the Hygard or any other fluid that is heavier than standard automatic trans fluid is to be careful when it's cold. The thicker fluid is more difficult to draw thru the filter.
would I have to worry about that in central FL? Where it's 90 degrees year round flaunting a 3500 stall?
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Guys,

I'm looking at getting some of this tomorrow for my 4L60e, but it sounds like there are a few different versions at different viscousity? Is that correct?

Unless I'm reading incorrectly, there doesn't appear to be any mention of that on this website.

http://www.deere.com/wps/dcom/en_US/...ssion_oil.page

Just want to make sure I know what I'm looking for when I go in and try and buy it. I like this idea of tightening the converter a little, so the thicker stuff is what I need I think?
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There's Hygard & Hygard low viscosity, the low viscosity or light is the same weight as atf. I was just in a John Deere dealer and they had both in 1 gallon jugs.

Yes thicker is what you want.
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Picked some up today. AU$7.20/litre for John Deere Hy-gard vs. AU$21.20/litre for Castrol Transmax Z which I used to run. I'll mix them 50/50 and see how it goes.

Interestingly, the Hy-gard is actually darker in colour than the Transmax Z is, so should be easier to see on the dipstick compared to what I'm used to.
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Originally Posted by SirNemesis
Picked some up today. AU$7.20/litre for John Deere Hy-gard vs. AU$21.20/litre for Castrol Transmax Z which I used to run. I'll mix them 50/50 and see how it goes.

Interestingly, the Hy-gard is actually darker in colour than the Transmax Z is, so should be easier to see on the dipstick compared to what I'm used to.

thats interesting, i've never run the name brand john deere stuff, we always use the cheapest we can find. LOL



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