What needs to be done to a 4l60e that will hold 800hp?
#21
If you want overdrive just get a 4l80 and don't look back.
Or a T400 with gear vendors if you have the $$$
If a shop is offering a 1000hp 4l60e with 1 year warranty, and they will remove and repair as required.. I guess you can try it.
Or a T400 with gear vendors if you have the $$$
If a shop is offering a 1000hp 4l60e with 1 year warranty, and they will remove and repair as required.. I guess you can try it.
#22
I literally laughed at the "remove" part, not saying that there aren't any shops that do full service as part of the warranty..... just extremely rare.
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#24
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I'm surprised the owner of that transmission would go for the level 3 black 4l60e but get a no name torque converter.
And, on your webpage for the level 3 4l60e this sentence on the right side of the page
"Level 3 is not enough you think ? Well give us a call about the level 3 black edition or you can see more details of it here"
The 'here' goes to a dead link.
The tear down was fun to watch.
I'm surprised the owner of that transmission would go for the level 3 black 4l60e but get a no name torque converter.
And, on your webpage for the level 3 4l60e this sentence on the right side of the page
"Level 3 is not enough you think ? Well give us a call about the level 3 black edition or you can see more details of it here"
The 'here' goes to a dead link.
The tear down was fun to watch.
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I've run the 4l60E for 3 seasons from RPM level 10 trans. 4000 Circle D converter. I shock mine pretty hard at 300 hit out of the hole with no problems yet.
The trans and parts are coming around as more places start to offer aftermarket stuff for them.
Ex: yep Turbo 400 is killer even with just a shift kit, Glides where a joke back in the 70's and even the early 80"s but now with all the aftermarket support for them a lowly cal glide is now King. So yes it's possible with a 4l60E but it's not cheap yet.
The trans and parts are coming around as more places start to offer aftermarket stuff for them.
Ex: yep Turbo 400 is killer even with just a shift kit, Glides where a joke back in the 70's and even the early 80"s but now with all the aftermarket support for them a lowly cal glide is now King. So yes it's possible with a 4l60E but it's not cheap yet.
#26
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Damn dude, you are sick of turbos.... and you're a proponent of paying for what can be done yourself, if you took the time to study up and ask questions. Sad. And if you believe that it can only be "done right" by having a shop do the build..... that's even more sad. I feel that we should encourage, and help each other to do everything we can.... and keep it out of the hands of other people/shops. Just an opinion.
#27
Dunno dude, but I hear that the local college loves turbos. And they also use the word "an" at the correct time. Brush up on your grammar before trying to go scholastic would be my advice.
#29
I understand this, but the fact is.... there's only so much to a transmission. And if you search hard enough (thanks google) or ask enough questions, you can acquire the info to build a solid transmission. Or anything else for that matter.
#30
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In the valve body, just with a HD-2 kit, do you run a Sonnax valve, or the one that comes with the kit, and why? You know they will shift totally different right? Then, what springs do you want to run, and hole sizes?
My point is, there are a ENDLESS number of variables. As a first time builder, I can say this:
I had a forward sprag roll withing 2 weeks, trashed everything. 2nd go around,
my 1-2 shift is good in D, but now my 2-3 seems "soft". I changed NOTHING that should have affected that, but yet, here I am with that.
I BELIEVE with all my heart, everyone can do ANYTHING they set their mind to. Hence, why I have always done, what most people tell me I can't. BUT, being realistic, a first time builder, doing a 1000HP 4L65E, is not financially a feasible endevour. At 1000HP, it WILL need to come out every year to be freshened up, so it doesn't "explode" causing irreparable damage to the "expensive" hard parts.
My point is like I have always said:
"You don't know, what you don't know"
Like where a snap ring has to be clocked, or all the "little things" you CANT find on the internet, or in a "basic" rebuild book/DVD.
JMHO
#32
I just rebuilt mine (2x) in fact in a month. I was a first time builder. I didn't buy all the high end ****, but did a pretty comprehensive build. Yeah sure, you can ask the guy your buying parts from, and google. I spent countless hours getting all my info together. Yep, clearances. There are quite a variance on setting clearances, on several different spots/setups in the trans, so, do you error on the tight side, or loose side? Do you just split the difference? If tight, do you run less pressure, say, a smaller boost valve?
In the valve body, just with a HD-2 kit, do you run a Sonnax valve, or the one that comes with the kit, and why? You know they will shift totally different right? Then, what springs do you want to run, and hole sizes?
My point is, there are a ENDLESS number of variables. As a first time builder, I can say this:
I had a forward sprag roll withing 2 weeks, trashed everything. 2nd go around,
my 1-2 shift is good in D, but now my 2-3 seems "soft". I changed NOTHING that should have affected that, but yet, here I am with that.
I BELIEVE with all my heart, everyone can do ANYTHING they set their mind to. Hence, why I have always done, what most people tell me I can't. BUT, being realistic, a first time builder, doing a 1000HP 4L65E, is not financially a feasible endevour. At 1000HP, it WILL need to come out every year to be freshened up, so it doesn't "explode" causing irreparable damage to the "expensive" hard parts.
My point is like I have always said:
"You don't know, what you don't know"
Like where a snap ring has to be clocked, or all the "little things" you CANT find on the internet, or in a "basic" rebuild book/DVD.
JMHO
In the valve body, just with a HD-2 kit, do you run a Sonnax valve, or the one that comes with the kit, and why? You know they will shift totally different right? Then, what springs do you want to run, and hole sizes?
My point is, there are a ENDLESS number of variables. As a first time builder, I can say this:
I had a forward sprag roll withing 2 weeks, trashed everything. 2nd go around,
my 1-2 shift is good in D, but now my 2-3 seems "soft". I changed NOTHING that should have affected that, but yet, here I am with that.
I BELIEVE with all my heart, everyone can do ANYTHING they set their mind to. Hence, why I have always done, what most people tell me I can't. BUT, being realistic, a first time builder, doing a 1000HP 4L65E, is not financially a feasible endevour. At 1000HP, it WILL need to come out every year to be freshened up, so it doesn't "explode" causing irreparable damage to the "expensive" hard parts.
My point is like I have always said:
"You don't know, what you don't know"
Like where a snap ring has to be clocked, or all the "little things" you CANT find on the internet, or in a "basic" rebuild book/DVD.
JMHO
#33
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I am of course not saying NO ONE can build it themselves and it hold up of course they can but the real question comes when you ask can they afford to fail? I built my first trans at 16 I am 53 now and I then spent years of fixing screwing it up learning trying again and again till I got what I now know works and is proven. Now do I want to discourage someone from try certainly not , But I also want them to understand what they are getting into, Is this a daily driver ? Is it your only transportation, What's you budget time and money wise. Many things must be considered.
So can someone do their own Sure can they afford to well that's another question with all the variables I mention, I have seen more failures than successes on a fist time build. Did some eventually get it right sure but at what cost? I am always around to give any advice I can to anyone I have proven that here for years not just in selling trans but answering 1000s of questions and posting many tech articles, Tips etc many of which I wrote.
But fact is many people do not have all the time, Patience and Money to just do it till it works.
So can someone do their own Sure can they afford to well that's another question with all the variables I mention, I have seen more failures than successes on a fist time build. Did some eventually get it right sure but at what cost? I am always around to give any advice I can to anyone I have proven that here for years not just in selling trans but answering 1000s of questions and posting many tech articles, Tips etc many of which I wrote.
But fact is many people do not have all the time, Patience and Money to just do it till it works.
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#34
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Now try that with a 4WD & transfer case and 8 inches of ground clearance... you make it sound so easy. How much to do the job?
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#37
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as he says on a site with 99.99999999% 2wd content. 5 years after the fact.
#38
TECH Apprentice
While I may be the only one here with an XUV; I am sure I am not the only one here who has a 4wd or awd vehicle. Oh by the way I pretty much just post here on the transmission forum which is irrelevant if I own a F-body or not.
#39
Going to be doing my first transmission swap in a week. Putting in a mild stage 2 4l60e and a 3200 Tc from Fti. I'm wanting to rebuild my stock 4l60e nothing wrong with it so a good start point and use it as a learning tool. In other words going to be a hobby thing. Is there any complete kits out there or rebuild recipes that are reliable. I'm only making 420/422 hp/tq atm eventually that will probably creep up so I'm thinking to build the stock one up for the next power jump. Any advice links recommendations welcome.
#40
TECH Apprentice
Start at the Stickies in the transmission section here, there are lots of builds of 4l60e/4l65e here... after reading many, many pages, you'll see what's common in them all and take notes, because they hate hearing questions that have already been asked. The Search feature is your friend... though you may never find what you're looking for if you don't word your search properly... or you may find it in an old thread and asking things in old threads is discouraged. Otherwise, there are some brilliant minds here!
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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