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454hemi Jan 22, 2020 09:54 AM

4l60e won't shift to 4th gear
 
Hi everyone, I have a problem with my 4l60e tranny in my 96 Chevy Tahoe 5.7L Vortec.

My trans won't shift to 4th gear. When I put shifter into overdrive position and start acceleration trans normaly shifts through 1-2-3 gears. After that RPM goes to 3000 - 3100 but car won't accelerate no more and I get 62 mph and 3000 - 3100 rpm.

In shown in this video.

In good case when all work fineI have 80 mph at 2500 rpm.

After diagnostic I replaced TPS sensor and brake switch, but problem won't go away.

What could be the problem ?

vorteciroc Jan 22, 2020 06:48 PM

I am just stating this bases on your instrumental panel cluster information...

The vehicle is going about 100 mph - 120 mph around 3,000 rpm.
Even if the speedometer is wrong and the vehicle is moving closer to 80 mph - 90 mph... the transmission should still be in 4th gear.

Does the vehicle have low ratio ring and pinion sets? Something near 2.73:1 or 3.08:1 ??? Or maybe have really tall tires?
This would be the only I could see the vehicle going that fast at about 3,000 rpm in 3rd gear.

The vehicle must be in 4th gear... Most likely what you are missing is the feeling of the torque converter locking up.
Many people who do not know any better describe that feeling as another gear change/ up-shift.

My guess is that you have a torque converter that is not locking up properly.

MaroonMonsterLS1 Jan 22, 2020 11:10 PM

kilometers per hour...they are using commie units on that dash, not freedom units

vorteciroc Jan 23, 2020 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by MaroonMonsterLS1 (Post 20199907)
kilometers per hour...they are using commie units on that dash, not freedom units

Whoops!

Thank you, I missed that.


:-)

454hemi Jan 23, 2020 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by vorteciroc (Post 20199803)
I am just stating this bases on your instrumental panel cluster information...

The vehicle is going about 100 mph - 120 mph around 3,000 rpm.
Even if the speedometer is wrong and the vehicle is moving closer to 80 mph - 90 mph... the transmission should still be in 4th gear.

Does the vehicle have low ratio ring and pinion sets? Something near 2.73:1 or 3.08:1 ??? Or maybe have really tall tires?
This would be the only I could see the vehicle going that fast at about 3,000 rpm in 3rd gear.

The vehicle must be in 4th gear... Most likely what you are missing is the feeling of the torque converter locking up.
Many people who do not know any better describe that feeling as another gear change/ up-shift.

My guess is that you have a torque converter that is not locking up properly.


Originally Posted by MaroonMonsterLS1 (Post 20199907)
kilometers per hour...they are using commie units on that dash, not freedom units


Originally Posted by vorteciroc (Post 20199917)
Whoops!

Thank you, I missed that.


:-)

Sorry, I forgot to say that my dash in kilometers per hour. My vehicle have stock ratio ring and pinion sets.

How I can check lock up of TCC ? What sensors affects TCC lock up ?

After diagnostic I replaced TPS sensor and brake switch (because of brake switch open circuit code) . This replacements doesn't solve the issue.

The fact is that the problem doesn't always arise. I can drive normally for 200 - 300 miles, but at some point in time this happens.

MaroonMonsterLS1 Jan 23, 2020 07:06 AM

To check TCC commanded status, you need to use an OBD2 scanner

Have you ever noticed trans temps when this happens?

454hemi Jan 23, 2020 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by MaroonMonsterLS1 (Post 20199955)
To check TCC commanded status, you need to use an OBD2 scanner

Have you ever noticed trans temps when this happens?

No, my ELM 327 + IOS CarScanner App can’t read anything about transmission. I will try another Android apps like a torque pro, motor data and write a result at this weekend.

bbond105 Jan 23, 2020 12:55 PM

While you are at it verify that 4th gear is commanded also.

MaroonMonsterLS1 Jan 23, 2020 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by bbond105 (Post 20200118)
While you are at it verify that 4th gear is commanded also.

Yea good point...not sure why I didn't mention that haha


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