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Old 07-21-2005, 03:46 PM
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I have been logging tranny temps since installing the new 3500 TC & Derale pan. I have never exceeded 200 deg in around town driving while going to slow to lockup. During lockup cruising its 180s. At the track after a full run, 184. Hot lapped (~15min between runs), 186. Just wanted to share some info with you guys.
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What is a Derale pan?
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Mine does those exact same numbers (sometimes even cooler during lockup driving down to 165*) with the stock pan and a trans cooler. Were you having trans temp problems before the pan and cooling tubes?
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Originally Posted by josh99ta
Mine does those exact same numbers (sometimes even cooler during lockup driving down to 165*) with the stock pan and a trans cooler. Were you having trans temp problems before the pan and cooling tubes?
No problems before with stock TC. I got the Derale because I got the TCI3500 converter. I'm not running a conventional auxillary tranny cooler like most others. I wanted to see if I could kill 3 birds with one stone, cool the tranny, increase fluid capacity, & have a drain plug, LOL!
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Originally Posted by KraZy
What is a Derale pan?
check out this link:
http://www.derale.com/transmissionpans.shtml
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I had a pan like that on my 700R4 (in my old IROC) along with a trans cooler. I loved that pan!
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Those are good temps.....that will definitely help it live!!!
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The 700r4 pan is the one that I'm using on my 4l60e. I'm very happy with the resulting temperatures.

I wanted the cooling to continue while the engine is off between track runs. I figured with an auxillary cooler, only the fluid in the cooler is being cooled when the engine is off. I don't know if my thinking is correct or not, but it seems to work for me.
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sounds like a nice setup, what was the price of the pan?
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Originally Posted by JustAnIlluzion
sounds like a nice setup, what was the price of the pan?
IIRC, $72 from Slummit
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Thats not bad at all.
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Can you use the derale pan in conjunction with a standard trans cooler?
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I dont see why not, its just a pan, no different than using one with a stock pan
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Would that be overkill? I dont see many people doing it but it sounds liek a good idea.
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You could of installed the converter first, see what temp it runs at, then add the pan and see if it gets lower. I want to get a deep aluminum pan with cooling fins, but haven't seen before and after temperatures from anyone.
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Anyone have a pic. of one of these on a car? curious as to how much lower it is.

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IIRC, the pan is 1" deeper than a stock pan. Other aftermarket deep-pans, are ~2" deep.

Because of the cooling tubes, you need to retain the use of the stock filter. That's another plus to me because it is one less thing to remember when buying parts, LOL!
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Originally Posted by spy2520
Can you use the derale pan in conjunction with a standard trans cooler?
Yes. I did that. Heavy car + big stall + FTRA caused me to want the extra cooling capability.

The dearle pan is good performance for the $$. I like the TCI pan better, but it is more $$.
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Default Hey nuzee - Question, Please?

Originally Posted by nuzee
The 700r4 pan is the one that I'm using on my 4l60e. I'm very happy with the resulting temperatures.

I wanted the cooling to continue while the engine is off between track runs. I figured with an auxillary cooler, only the fluid in the cooler is being cooled when the engine is off. I don't know if my thinking is correct or not, but it seems to work for me.
nuzee;

Also have an '02 Z28, LS1, A4, and am thinking of replacing my stock tranny pan with the Derale GM 700 R4/L60E. Please don't laugh too hard when reading my questions, but;

a) that stock number is EXACTLY the correct fit for my A4, 4L60E?
b) no adaptations were required when you used the Derale pan - correct?
c) stock filter and gasket were used, or do you have to buy special ones with the Derale?

Would appreciate any help/info you can give me. Sounds like a simple product I should add to my Z.

Gracias.



Steve Shydo
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Originally Posted by Smith4046
nuzee;

Also have an '02 Z28, LS1, A4, and am thinking of replacing my stock tranny pan with the Derale GM 700 R4/L60E. Please don't laugh too hard when reading my questions, but;

a) that stock number is EXACTLY the correct fit for my A4, 4L60E?
b) no adaptations were required when you used the Derale pan - correct?
c) stock filter and gasket were used, or do you have to buy special ones with the Derale?

Would appreciate any help/info you can give me. Sounds like a simple product I should add to my Z.

Gracias.



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The 700r4 pn is the exact part that I ordered. It is a direct bolt-on. It comes with a pan gasket. The stock filter is the correct filter to use. If you get the taller "truck" filter, it would not fit. This is a "no surprises" bolt-on.

IIRC, there was another internet vendor that sells the pan cheaper than Summit. If I stumble across it again, I'll post it.


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