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Old 11-18-2011, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SSCamaro99_3
Curious. That's the opposite of everything I hear/read.
unless the "6.2l" tthey were alluding to is to include DI... itll be the same ls3.
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Who wants an 11 second factory car anyway that can go tens for a few more grand in bolt ons. Damn you GM!

4th gens are parts bin cars, with cheap interiors and simple suspension, all of which people bitch about. They fixed that on the 5th gen, and people bitch about that too...I dont understand.

Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
unless the "6.2l" tthey were alluding to is to include DI... itll be the same ls3.
Supercharged LSA. Not an LS3.


So, the Gt500 hasnt hooked up since 2007, and they added 150 more hp?
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Originally Posted by DrkPhx
A 2012 GT500 with the SVT package is right around $54K and even with the added weight I give the nod to the ZL1 for looks and the magnetic ride suspension. Plus the ZL1 has some standard features the GT500 only have as a dealer installed option.
The ZL1s precursor is the Cadillac CTS-V running a generation older magnetic ride, skinnier tires and the same powertrain with less power and more weight. This is how it stacked up against the GT500.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW-qF_Xzjl4
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I don't think anyone who buys this car will be disappointed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjy7vvH1Isk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260FmmISHfg

Unless of course GM pumps up the power next model year.
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Originally Posted by TriShield
I don't think anyone who buys this car will be disappointed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjy7vvH1Isk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=260FmmISHfg

Unless of course GM pumps up the power next model year.
How much further can you take a LSA reliably and warranty it? 650HP maybe? Isn't the short block more or less equivalent to the LS3 in terms of what HP it can take?
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
How much further can you take a LSA reliably and warranty it? 650HP maybe? Isn't the short block more or less equivalent to the LS3 in terms of what HP it can take?
I believe it is different from the LS3 block. I do know that the LS9 motor uses the same or very similar block with a larger supercharger and has made over 900hp without internal motor work IIRC.

In all reality though, who cares about HP numbers by themselves when these cars are so close to needing roll cages stock? Theres no doubt that these things will run high 11's in good conditions (CTS-V's have already done it bone stock even with more weight, less power, and skinnier tires). Pullie, stall, DR's and a tune will probably get you in to the 10's with these things and that's rollcage fast. How many people are going to honestly buy these cars because they want a platform to build an 8 or 7 second car? Probably not many. If you just want a "fast car", it's already there.
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
How much further can you take a LSA reliably and warranty it? 650HP maybe?
I think they might be able to take it to the lower 600s range and still meet all of the other criteria.




Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
Isn't the short block more or less equivalent to the LS3 in terms of what HP it can take?
Nah it can likely take much more than an LS3 short block as it's got a lower compression ratio and it's internals, though maybe not quite up to LS9 standards, were still designed for boost from the get go.
As far as internal strength goes it's essentially:
LS9 > LSA > LS3
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
I believe it is different from the LS3 block. I do know that the LS9 motor uses the same or very similar block with a larger supercharger and has made over 900hp without internal motor work IIRC.
The block isn't the same. The LS9 block is designed for larger head bolts. I believe it also has more head bolts but not for sure.
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
unless the "6.2l" tthey were alluding to is to include DI... itll be the same ls3.
It is. Current best information has the Gen V as 5.3 and 6.2, and with DI. 5.5 is race only.
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how is it the manual is slower and has a lower top speed?
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Cant shift faster or better than the computer probably. Manual is probably limited by gearing
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
Who wants an 11 second factory car anyway that can go tens for a few more grand in bolt ons. Damn you GM!

4th gens are parts bin cars, with cheap interiors and simple suspension, all of which people bitch about. They fixed that on the 5th gen, and people bitch about that too...I dont understand.



Supercharged LSA. Not an LS3.


So, the Gt500 hasnt hooked up since 2007, and they added 150 more hp?
we were talking of the new corvette



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