TheHitman

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The Z/28 is not performing like a $150-200k European car. 150-200k is Porsche 991 911 Turbo territory, Mclaren MP4 12c territory and 2014 GT-R (actually 100k) Territory which all destroy very badly in all aspects of performance.

Adam1203

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Or changing the line up. so it will be like this
ss= base vette
1LE=Z51
Zl1=ZR1
Z28= Z06

It'llrun

Can't see it... Maybe, but I can't see it.

SSCamaro99_3

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Except the Z06 will be revealed Monday, and there is no way you release your Halo version ahead of a mid range version. You want Corvette guys to go buy the base, the mid range, and then the Halo in succession if at all possible. Move em up the ladder every 18 months or so.

Adam1203

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good point. Unless they plan to market it do a different audience. By the way who really buys cars like that LOL. I get they release them like that but no one buys the base then the mid level then the top.

or change it to an option. like the 1LE.

some one in another thread said gm has a 4.5 twin turbo under development. It is estimated to put out 500 hp. it was originally rumored to be in the z06. we now know its not so is it going in the zr1? 500hp zr1 flag vs the z06?

MasterTomos

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Preliminary track times indicate otherwise. GM did 7:37 around the Nurburgring in partially wet conditions.

GT-R's have fluctuated from 7:29 in the 7:40's
Ferrari 458 Italia 7:38
Koenigsegg CCX and CCR hold 7:33-7:34 times
Lexus LFA 7:38 (not European of course, but notable)

Of course we all know these times are subjective for comparisons for many different reasons, but this is more or less of a tool to see what kind of company certain cars perform in on a well-rounded, extremely long course.

Going down the list into the 7:40's we find F430 Scuderias, Murciealagos, SLR McClaren, Audi R8 V10's...The Z/28 definitely mingling in the performance crowd of cars twice it's price, both new and used.

MeentSS02

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Where are you getting those GT-R numbers? I've found 7:19 from one test (2013), and a 7:08 for the NISMO variant (doesn't look official, but I don't know how they keep track of that stuff). I see a 7:28 for the Ferrari 458 as well...

http://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-t...times-top-100/

7:37 is nothing to sneeze at, but thinking it can keep up with exotics is a bit of a stretch.

fruitsalad

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Lmao...

991 Turbo: $182,050
7:26:00(?), dry conditions, unconfirmed

MP4-12C: $289,900
7:28:00, dry conditions

'13 GTR: $96,820
7:18, dry conditions, "Euro-spec," drove itself

Remind me again, even at the price of $75,000.00, what vehicles other than a C6Z (7:22) or a ZR1 (7:19) can compete? Even the GTR is over $20k more. These caveman-era 'Merican rocks are shitting all over your beloved thupercarth.

LFA was slow as ****, and previous GTRs were too with the exception of the "Nismo spec" which was equipped during the test with a massive wing, GT3-style aero package, and slicks.

From the previous thread on this topic...

Z Fury

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Not only that, but this is a stripped car (Z/28) that is designed for track duty. Comparing it to exotics with full interior, stereos, HVAC, etc. is an apples to potatoes comparison at best.

This Z/28 is an amazing performer at this price point, but it is designed as a track car first, whereas exotics are designed to be just as useful and comfortable on the city streets.

Adam1203

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Really??? Ever actually been in one or ever watch a tv called Top gear (British version).

My step sisters husbands lambo road worse then a 1 ton pickup.They are notorious for over heating to. I am not saying the camaro Z/28 has a nice ride nor am I saying every exotic has a bad ride or over heats but are more the exception not the rule.

Spoolin

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Well i'm out of the running. Just bought a 1LE. Was waiting to hear the pricing on the Z/28 but now that it's out, might as well go for the next model in line that's the best bang for the buck.

SSCamaro99_3

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Yes, they do. I work with someone whose father just took delivery of a C7. While he was at the ealer for delivery he asked about getting on the Z06 order list, so that he could trade the C7 in when the Z06 comes out.

Adam1203

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I can say that is more the oddity the the norm that guy might make up about 3% of the buyers market if that.

Besides he hasn't even done it till he actually signs the paper work and walks out with the keys.

Felix C

I read on a relevant forum that the issue is the Z/28 is not permitted to run in any racing class with its current equipment. Carbon ceramic brakes, front tires wider than 285 and disc brakes larger than 14.2 inches are illegal in SCCA and all other FIA owned organizations. This car is for hobbyist HPDE and track days. Unlike the Boss 302 which can be used in Grand Am GS and SCCA GTS.

It'llrun

Why would safer cars be banned? I mean, if you consider larger brakes and wider tires can help a vehicle remain in control of its driver, that's safer than the opposite. Then again, I always have questioned "stupid rules" in racing.

Felix C

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...iew/pzero.html


GMHTP: Is there any specific racing class (SCCA, etc.) that the Z/28 is optimized for? How do you see it being used by owners—will any of them street drive this monster?

DB: Currently, there is no specific SCCA class for the Z/28. We are working to get some of the parts homologated for racing, but there’s nothing to announce yet. We believe most will be used by weekend track warriors who want a street-legal/track-capable car they can drive to the track, run some laps, then drive home. Z/28 will be too track dedicated for many people to drive as a daily driver, but you certainly can.

A lot of money for a car you can only hot lap. The tires will only last about 4-5 track days/events.

SSCamaro99_3

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Immaterial as to the percentage. We are discussing your original lineup, and there is no way a Halo car preceeds a mid range version. Even if it is 3%, if you release the Halo version, you have missed the mid range sale among that group.

JD_AMG

Its not a safety issue, its a performance issue. The car will out perform others in the same class and that will be "unfair".

Felix C

True. There is also a penalty for the LS7.

Adam1203

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Well time will tell.