6th gen sales still not picking up
06-02-2016, 01:53 PM
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Not sure why the author of this article always seems so shocked that 6th gen sales are so much lower than Mustang. I really don't think there is much of a mystery here. Styling is subjective, but there is no question that many people find base V8 6th gen pricing to be a turn off. It may be "improved" from the 5th gen, it may be (is) superior to Mustang in terms of performance, but it's just not improved enough or superior enough to justify the cost difference for the average shopper apparently.
06-02-2016, 02:25 PM
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Add to it that a lot of enthusiasts ordered their cars and have received them, so now we're down to the car selling on its cosmetics and pricing to the rest of the buyers, and those are two major issues the new car has (styling and price).
Even the Challenger outsold the Camaro in May. If this continues for the next couple months (and I see no reason why it wouldn't), I see some nice incentives coming this fall on 2016s.
Even the Challenger outsold the Camaro in May. If this continues for the next couple months (and I see no reason why it wouldn't), I see some nice incentives coming this fall on 2016s.
06-03-2016, 02:25 AM
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It's priced too high. You can talk about "value" for your dollar all you want. The market is speaking. The consumers aren't seeing it.
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06-03-2016, 12:07 PM
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Best post in that thread (#54):
The cost, even if justifiable, of all the improvements on this car may have pushed MSRP beyond the center of the target audience.
It's priced too high. You can talk about "value" for your dollar all you want. The market is speaking. The consumers aren't seeing it.
06-03-2016, 01:50 PM
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It's simple. They are priced too high. About $10k higher than equally equipped Mustangs.
There's just no way I'd pay nearly $48k for a 2SS when I could buy a fully loaded GT with a TVS brand new for the same price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang...m=201586543154
There's just no way I'd pay nearly $48k for a 2SS when I could buy a fully loaded GT with a TVS brand new for the same price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang...m=201586543154
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06-03-2016, 03:01 PM
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In further reading of that Camaro6 thread, I see it was mentioned by at least one poster that dealers are willing to negotiate significantly on the price. I don't know if this is true or not as I don't know anyone locally who has bought or attempted to buy a 6th gen, but if that's the case then it's a big mistake on GM's part IMO. Why set MSRP so much higher than the competition but then allow your dealers so much wiggle room? I know some people really feel like they've accomplished something when they "beat" their dealer down to a much lower price, but you have to already be pretty serious to start contacting dealers and discussing pricing. Many more people will look at the MSRP online and simply move on before even considering negotiation, and the sales figures seem to reflect this.
Or perhaps this willingness to negotiate is just something recent, in response to slow sales.
Or perhaps this willingness to negotiate is just something recent, in response to slow sales.
06-03-2016, 03:05 PM
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In further reading of that Camaro6 thread, I see it was mentioned by at least one poster that dealers are willing to negotiate significantly on the price. I don't know if this is true or not as I don't know anyone locally who has bought or attempted to buy a 6th gen, but if that's the case then it's a big mistake on GM's part IMO. Why set MSRP so much higher than the competition but then allow your dealers so much wiggle room? I know some people really feel like they've accomplished something when they "beat" their dealer down to a much lower price, but you have to already be pretty serious to start contacting dealers and discussing pricing. Many more people will look at the MSRP online and simply move on before even considering negotiation, and the sales figures seem to reflect this.
Or perhaps this willingness to negotiate is just something recent, in response to slow sales.
Or perhaps this willingness to negotiate is just something recent, in response to slow sales.
06-03-2016, 03:31 PM
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as i have mentioned numerous times. i had to wait for years before dealers were moving off anything significant on 5th gens. then as 6 gens were arriving i got money off and 0 per.
now im seeing dealers discount them already.
i dont want sales to tank but i do hope to get a good deal on a 6th gen in a few years.
now im seeing dealers discount them already.
i dont want sales to tank but i do hope to get a good deal on a 6th gen in a few years.
06-03-2016, 09:28 PM
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you know what? you have a point.
it got to where WTF was a 5th gen going to get here it was advertised so much before they finally arrived.
now you have to search you tube to find out about a 6th gen where as before youd see 5th gens in movies and commercials constantly it seemed.
06-05-2016, 08:38 PM
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Just sat in a 6th gen for the first time last week and it is noticeably smaller inside. I put my daughters in the back of my car all the time now and there is no way they could get back there in the 6. The front seat was touching the back seat in the same driving position. There literally is no way I would ever buy one now. If I want a 2 seater, it's Vette all the way. The whole reason I sold my Vette and bought a Camaro was to get my girls in the back seat and have a car that is more usable.
06-06-2016, 07:06 AM
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Michael Bay just tweeted a pic of the new Bumblebee. Seems to me GM is about to run another 2+ hour ad for the Camaro next spring/summer.
More to the point, they really need to run an ad stressing the differences between the 5th and 6th Gen, mainly the all new engine, chassis, lighter weight, revised (vastly improved in my opinion) interior, etc. Those points won't be made in a 2+ hour explosion-**** movie.
More to the point, they really need to run an ad stressing the differences between the 5th and 6th Gen, mainly the all new engine, chassis, lighter weight, revised (vastly improved in my opinion) interior, etc. Those points won't be made in a 2+ hour explosion-**** movie.
06-06-2016, 07:54 AM
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Everybody can't afford to pay 700 plus dollars a month plus FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE for 5 years or longer on the new SS. Yes they nice cars but good grief people have to eat these days and need a roof over they head.
06-06-2016, 05:26 PM
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I agree they have priced themselves out of the market a bit. But with these whining *** bitches out here always wanting more features and nicer interiors it coukd only be expected.
Tusky is right......the cost of ownership all the way around is higher. Here in VA we have personal property tax we have to pay every 6 months. A 40k car will cost you almost 1k every 6 months just to pay the state, that with rising ins....... Not worth it to me.
Tusky is right......the cost of ownership all the way around is higher. Here in VA we have personal property tax we have to pay every 6 months. A 40k car will cost you almost 1k every 6 months just to pay the state, that with rising ins....... Not worth it to me.
06-06-2016, 05:57 PM
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lately I've had the itch for a gen 6 as a daily driver to match my black 69 Camaro..last Friday I pulled them up on the chevy website and decided I want a 2ss. I saw the MSRP and immediately hit the X in the top right corner. I can get a low mileage C6 z06 for those prices. insane.