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Old 02-11-2011, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSpeed
It sounds like axles just about cure it, short of being completely retarded.
Axles will do the trick (well, 99% of it) and are an excellent investment.

In addition to axles, the OEM pinion bushing will probably need to be replaced, since they're overly soft and prone to deterioration.

Neoprene will transmit a bit more sound that the stock bushing, but not nearly as much as Delrin. Ask me how I know.

Now, if someone only made a replacement cradle bushing set.......
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I had the Hendrix econo axle installed on the driver side of my car and was very unimpressed. It came as bare metal and had the incorrect size clamps that did not fit the supplied boots. It removed about 1/2 of my wheelhop. This probably had more to do with the sizing of the Hendrix driver side axle being close to the '06-'07 stock size. It's possible that it works well in conjunction with the Hendrix passenger side axle. I decided to go with the Gforce set because their passenger side axle shaft is the larger diameter one. It is longer than the driver side and I felt more comfortable with making that side more rigid. The set of Gforce shafts reduced my hop by about 80-90%.
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Originally Posted by serik21
dr speed who tuned your cts-v im also from seattle
It as done by the guys at Horsepower Ranch.

Originally Posted by scatillac
Axles will do the trick (well, 99% of it) and are an excellent investment.

In addition to axles, the OEM pinion bushing will probably need to be replaced, since they're overly soft and prone to deterioration.

Neoprene will transmit a bit more sound that the stock bushing, but not nearly as much as Delrin. Ask me how I know.

Now, if someone only made a replacement cradle bushing set.......

Who makes this Neoprene bushing? They just wad up a wet suit and shove it in the hole?
Old 02-11-2011, 11:38 AM
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Hendrix is a stand up guy, got my Maggie from him (at a steal I might add) and his father was in the hospital at the time. I have heard that his father has since past away and he has been dealing with several family issues (my condolences if you are reading this Thomas). You can not fault the guy for having to take care of his family.

Anyhow, quite a few stand up vendors sell axle kits. Hendrix, G-Force, and Paschal Performance all sell proven solution's. I have done business with Thomas (Hendrix) and Clifford (Paschal), I have spoken with Chris (G-FORCE) as well. All are stand up guys who provide great service and will help anyway they can.

You can't go wrong here.
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Hope everything is okay with Thomas - left another voicemail.

His cell is on...still rings.
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Dr.speed wat was your gains and wat are your mods?
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It came that way...I just bought it!
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Originally Posted by rand49er
I think this is relevant ...

Since installing the Hendrix/DSS axles, I've done precious few 3500 RPM clutch dumps on dry pavement, but got zero WH each time even as I bounced off the rev limiter. It just burned.

I got caught in rain once since then, but with the family in the car, I didn't attempt to see if the WH was likewise cured by the axles on wet roads. I do recall it was pronounced in rain and on snow when I was stock ... way back when.

My point is, has anyone noticed WH with the new axles in rain/snow? As an observation, I would presume that such WH isn't as violent as when it's dry ... at least I think.
i have hop on the street depending when the tires break loose and it also happens in both wet/snowy roads. just depends what rpm it is. some times it spins freely. but it hops alot higher up in the rpm range then before.

Originally Posted by whisler151
I have not attempted to induce wheelhop when wet. I typically take it easy when the roads are wet. I have done many launches in dry and one time at the track...I have not experienced wheelhop since installing the axles.
you are the only person i know who doesnt have wheel hop at the track. what 60' were you able to pull when you got no hop at all? and at what rpm did you launch at? some have gotten it out of the hole or higher up in the rpm range.
Old 02-11-2011, 11:24 PM
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Give us a call, I'd be glad to talk axles.
Were around the shop half days on Saturday and all during the week from 9-6.
We make all our products in house, no middle man here

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Originally Posted by Gforce Engineering
Give us a call, I'd be glad to talk axles.
Were around the shop half days on Saturday and all during the week from 9-6.
We make all our products in house, no middle man here

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Left you a voicemail!
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Im running the hendrix econo axle on the drivers side, no wheelhop on the street at all and have never had a problem with the product period. For 350 bucks it was some of the best money ive ever spent on the car.
i have the same setup, and my car hops as bad, if not worse, than a stock axle.
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Originally Posted by RADEoN
i have the same setup, and my car hops as bad, if not worse, than a stock axle.
Had it worked, you would've saved some serious buck$.

These may cost a bunch more, but they work exceedlingly well.


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i don't even care about wheelhop at this point, i'm about to set my car on fire.
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Soo...Rad...sounds like there aren't ANY parts that would work well.
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Originally Posted by DrSpeed
Left you a voicemail!
Sorry man, I just realized the # in my signature isn't our shop # anymore.
The shop # is 316-733-2100
I'll have to change my signature

Thanks
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I'd guess the set rand49er posted is pretty good. I'm so frustrated with this piece of **** car, its sickening. I don't beat on the car, and I break the tranny. Everyone else gets to dump the clutch at 35,000 rpm and run a 4 second quarter mile with no problems at all. Get my tranny out and see a brand new ls7 slave leaking all over the garage floor.

**** my car.
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Pisnuoff/07cts-v has a built ls3 with a pair of g force axles, and he let me drive his car, and while it DID hop a little, it spent more time stuck to the road. I think his tires were also a culprit in the hopping.
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My hop is exaggerated because a long time ago I cut the top of my cradle bushings with a razor blade to put some big-***-washers in there. Since then the cradle hits the body without the bushing hitting first so the hop sounds worse than it actually is. The roads were also really cold (something like 20° outside) and a little salty when RADEoN drove it, the Toyo Proxes T1R's do not like the cold either. When it's above about 70°, there is virtually no hop.
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Originally Posted by RADEoN
i don't even care about wheelhop at this point, i'm about to set my car on fire.
Just get rid of it and go buy a Honda Accord.
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Originally Posted by RADEoN
i don't even care about wheelhop at this point, i'm about to set my car on fire.
That's the frustration talking. You've really only been chasing the one issue, grinding into gear. You swapped a few parts in an attempt to cure the problem but, they didn't. At least now you have eliminated everything else that it could be (clutch, slave and master) and have it narrowed down to being absolutely sure that you have to rebuild the transmission. With the exception of the master, I would have recommended changing everything that you changed anyhow when you took out the trans to rebuild it. The only thing you are out, really, is your (and my) time.


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