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D.K 07-08-2011 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by vmapper (Post 15128998)
lol, I dont think 285rwhp = 111 mph... lol, was there any interior at all? - that would have to weight under 2800. I call bull on that one.
if this 'lamer' car your talking about did pull out 111.. LIES on the rwhp or a gutted car.

True, the 4v does wake up with mods! nice curve... but overall the motor is tapped out in general just talking in general not specificly this.. hence why they finally went back to the better 5.0.

Not gutted, and not under 2800 lbs. Scale showed 3134 with me in it. I have dyno sheets and numerous time slips, and no, I'm not going thru the hassle of scanning and posting them. If you don't believe, nobody is asking you to.
People could say the same about the LS6 and the switch to the LS2,3,7. It's just a race. Run what you brung, but never underestimate the competition.
Why anyone gets all up at arms about bench racing is beyond me...

johnrowdy 07-08-2011 12:46 PM

Had to subscribe! look forward to the vids!

FRiCK 07-08-2011 01:00 PM

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JD03Cobra 07-08-2011 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by vmapper (Post 15128653)
there is nothing to discuss...
So how much $$ do you want to earn tonight?

it wont be close..
a) its the lame 4.6L.
b) its a 5 speed

Lame? Compared to what...The 2v 4.6L is lame. The DOHC 4.6L is another story. I've owned 3 Cobra's with this motor. My 97 Cobra with 4.10 gears & H-pipe ran 13.2's all day long.

Your V should win especially from a roll...May be more interesting from a Dig.

vmapper 07-08-2011 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by JD03Cobra (Post 15129155)
Lame? Compared to what...The 2v 4.6L is lame. The DOHC 4.6L is another story. I've owned 3 Cobra's with this motor. My 97 Cobra with 4.10 gears & H-pipe ran 13.2's all day long.

Your V should win especially from a roll...May be more interesting from a Dig.

I owned a 1996 cobra. with a bunch of mods too, gears etc.... my 1999 ls1 always took it from both being stock, to modding up both. so... comparing the 4.6 to any LS ... thats my point.

FRiCK 07-08-2011 01:08 PM

My previous car to the V was a full bolt on 01' cobra, EPIK's was a full bolt on 03' Mach 1.... I know what these motors can do. Realistically it SHOULD be a good race, me edging out as we go faster.

he just text me. HE WANTS TO DO A 3rd GEAR 70mph ROLL.....?????? WTF!?

vmapper 07-08-2011 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by D.K (Post 15129054)
Not gutted, and not under 2800 lbs. Scale showed 3134 with me in it. I have dyno sheets and numerous time slips, and no, I'm not going thru the hassle of scanning and posting them. If you don't believe, nobody is asking you to.
People could say the same about the LS6 and the switch to the LS2,3,7. It's just a race. Run what you brung, but never underestimate the competition.
Why anyone gets all up at arms about bench racing is beyond me...

No problem, not up all in arms, the OP wants to post Specs of 2 cars and then ask the IF statement... you need to throw around specs and comparisons.

I agree, never underestimate... but you can at least ESTIMATE better than what others ESTIMATE yours does...

could say what about LS6 vs LS7 ?

Im not here to argue, just pointing out MY experiences with my 1996 4.6L (quad cam crap)

anyways... good race no matter what Frick!

D.K 07-08-2011 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by FRiCK (Post 15129178)
he just text me. HE WANTS TO DO A 3rd GEAR 70mph ROLL.....?????? WTF!?

Agree, and then take the win. That's like asking to lose!

raven154 07-08-2011 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by FRiCK (Post 15129178)
he just text me. HE WANTS TO DO A 3rd GEAR 70mph ROLL.....?????? WTF!?

Lol that's awesome. His ram air doesn't start working until 70? I say that's an easy win!

FRiCK 07-08-2011 01:30 PM

C'mon man!! Let's row through some gears here!?

D.K 07-08-2011 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by vmapper (Post 15129180)
No problem, not up all in arms, the OP wants to post Specs of 2 cars and then ask the IF statement... you need to throw around specs and comparisons.

I agree, never underestimate... but you can at least ESTIMATE better than what others ESTIMATE yours does...

could say what about LS6 vs LS7 ?

Im not here to argue, just pointing out MY experiences with my 1996 4.6L (quad cam crap)

anyways... good race no matter what Frick!

Could say the LS6 was replaced by the LS7(?) and the LS2 for the same reasons you state the 4.6 was replaced by the 5.0. I'm not arguing about whether the new 5.0 is better or not (which it definitely is), but does it really matter?

That's exactly why I posted up MY experiences with an N/A 4.6. I know fully well what an LSx engine is capable of, but I also know what a 4.6 can be capable of with the right mods, and with the right driver. I'm sorry you didn't care for yours much, but I love my outdated 2v, and I'm sure I'll love my LS6 just as well when I pick one up.

The point of my posts is that I think it'll be more close of a race than most people think...well not anymore since they're going from a 70 MPH roll in 3rd. :bang: Race, have fun, and don't get caught!

big reg 07-08-2011 01:57 PM

LS6 was not replaced for performance reasons. It was replaced as it was more cost effective to put the LS2 in everything as it was based on their truck motors which they sold a lot of. The LS6 was only in the limited production C5Z. Hence the switch. Obviously the LS7 came about to compete with 8+l viper motors.

big reg 07-08-2011 01:59 PM

My cammed SS easily walked my cousins vortech 97 cobra a few years back. I had stock 3:42 gears and a big cam too. He had 4:10's as well. I was never impressed with the NA 4.6L motors. I have owned a Terminator too.

CTSVBiggie 07-08-2011 02:05 PM

Where are the VIDS...... TOO much bitching and moaning. Not enough racing.

There is a blue Mach1 rolling around where i live with unknown mods but I see a racing fuel tank mounted in the rear so I will assume WELL modded.

Its a street race, can go either way. Hemightbe hiding spray.

Run for fun and dont put money on the line your not ready to lose.

STAGEUP 07-08-2011 02:30 PM

It's not even going to be close! WAKE UP GUYS!!!!! LSX IS KING!!!!!

CTSVBiggie 07-08-2011 02:41 PM

While I love the LS series of engines. Light wieght and able to produce a LOT of power. I will not however say its the BEST engine ever. Nor will it win on its own merits everytime. Sometimes you need more than just displacement... Like to run a big turbo built evo... Like maybe nitrous and a SCer.

LOL Im bored

wcryan 07-08-2011 02:42 PM

They are hatin on the ford forum over there from that link. Haha

UAE_Z28 07-08-2011 03:07 PM

They're cheering for his Mach 1! the last post said :It kills me to say this, but LSX topend will over power the 4V on this one . This came from a Mach1 owner :D

wcryan 07-08-2011 03:20 PM

simple as that.... btw, how is dubai?

FRiCK 07-08-2011 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by UAE_Z28 (Post 15129578)
They're cheering for his Mach 1! the last post said :It kills me to say this, but LSX topend will over power the 4V on this one . This came from a Mach1 owner :D

He had a MS3 WS6 prior to the Mach.... So he knows what's up


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