J_Siafu

Anyone ever use the GForce axel kit does it really help? this combined with the bmr kit think it will work?

ryridesmotox

There are a bunch of threads about it. I think the general consensus is that they do help considerably, and combined with new rear subframe mounts get rid of most of the hop. The diff is still somewhat weak.

Case in point, I believe that Car and Driver did a article of all the features of the new CTS-V and one of the big things was big and little axles. They have some good pictures of it also. Same basic premise behind the geforce axle kits.

OneSlowV

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Some guys have just put a better tire on the rear. And have solved wheel hop that away to.

ryridesmotox

My hop went away probably 80% with my 95a subframe bushings. I would say try that first. It's the cheapest route I only get hope when I really drop the hammer out of the hole. Not even normal racing or whatever, like smokey burnout stuff still gets me hop

J_Siafu

where on earth do i get new rear subframe mounts dear friend

J_Siafu

please tell me where you got them from

isis

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They're called cradle bushings. I think bmr uses sandwich bushings around the stock ones. Revshift and creative steel make complete replacement ones. Creative steel ones are easier to install with their tool rental but either can be done in a day I would think.

J_Siafu

i just seen the creative steel bushings you think they are really better than the bmr kit?

ryridesmotox

I put creative steel bushings in my car. They are great. They are a good price for benefit. And get the diff bushing as well.

J_Siafu

help with the hop? better route then bmr

Fweasel

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I first replaced my rear cradle bushings, diff bushing, and rear trailing arm bushings with poly units from Revshift. It improved the feel of the back end and handling, quieted down some of the diff noise, and very mildly improved wheel hop. I then replaced both axles with DSS axles and for regular street driving, my wheel hop is now gone. In the wet, wheel hop is gone until about 4K but that happens only in extreme cases. Very satisfied with the results and money spent.

J_Siafu

thanks for the reply im getting a build list together to start on after this next deployment you hear any good or bad about the creative steel bushings for the V? im leaning towards them for everything right now as opposed to BMR and im going to check out DSS and see what they have to offer as well

isis

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I have them. Never used the bmr. I'm pretty sure they do the same things though. I like the creative steel cradle bushing design and install tool.

I have a revshift diff bushing. I like their design better for that one.

Only time I spin the tires is to slide the ***-end. I think wheelhop is more of a straight line issue so I don't usually feel any. I'd imagine cradle bushings and axles would be the proper path if you can swing both.

I think if you install the 8.8 rear swap from creative steel, wheel hop goes away or at least doesn't matter. So there's that $$ option too

J_Siafu

thanks for the input man i really appreciate it THANK GOD FOR BAH AND DEPLOYMENT PAY!!!!!!!!!!!

ryridesmotox

Yea, for the hop and to help the rear end go where I want it to go. The whole cradle with stock bushings will flop around like a dying fish. They are a bit of a pain to remove the stock ones. You'll want an air hammer for sure. After I dropped the subframe it took like 10 minutes per bushing in and out.

isis

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With the creative steel install tool you don't even need the air hammer or to drop the cradle at all. You can press them out and finish all 4 in 3-4 hours. It's stupid simple if you're into that kind of thing.

rand49er

"Press them out?" I had to drop the cradle to install my Specter Werkes cradle bushings. Don't see how they could've been pressed out.

OP, do the bushings first and be prepared to do the axles as well. I did both and can drop the clutch at 3k RPM, jam my foot to the floor, hit the rev limiter while spinning the tires in first gear, and get zero wheelhop.

isis

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Yes. Press them out. Creative Steel's tool is a cage, a bottle jack, and some spacers. You loosen the cradle enough to put the cage around each corner, insert the spacers and pump the bottle jack. It's really clever. Makes an awful noise as you get them to budge. And I cracked my elbow off the floor twice. But it still took under 4 hrs and I didn't remove anything from the car besides the exhaust and rear wheels. Compared to what I've seen as far as dropping the cradle and burning/sawing/hammering, it's night and day.

J_Siafu

thanks man im going to get the Gforce axles and bushings from Creative steel thanks for the help

Sssnake

Never heard of this one. What makes one tire better than another in terms of wheel hop? The only thing I can think of is a tire that doesn't get any traction and I wouldn't say that is better.