Not really V related but kinda cool, and confusing.
10-08-2015, 09:43 AM
#1
Not really V related but kinda cool, and confusing. Ok, so if you haven't heard of Translogic Zombie 222, its an all electric mustang 68 fast back. No doubt a cool car (minus the 50 mile battery range). Now I have one problem, if you skip to 2:50 in the first video you will see what I mean. He seems to have a drag slip in his hand, and they begin to talk about 0-60mph times. stating a 1.94 second 0-60 mph time. Traditionally this is not on a drag way time slip, rather the 0-60 foot time. Please tell me these people are not that stupid to get that mixed up?!
Video #1 is a review.
Video #2 is that car at the 1/8 mile doing 7.03 @ 94 mph. So a high 10's low 11's pass in the 1/4
Video #3 is a porsche turbo s with a 2.9 sec 0-60 mph time for reference.
Am I crazy? Or are they wrong? I mean, some fairly large claims here, faster than any production super car?
Video #1 is a review.
Video #2 is that car at the 1/8 mile doing 7.03 @ 94 mph. So a high 10's low 11's pass in the 1/4
Video #3 is a porsche turbo s with a 2.9 sec 0-60 mph time for reference.
Am I crazy? Or are they wrong? I mean, some fairly large claims here, faster than any production super car?
10-08-2015, 10:26 AM
#3
From the video and the car specs, I would say it is a 0-60 mph time. The only reason it wouldn't be would be traction. The Veyron is 1100 lbs/ft of torque and 3.4 sec. This thing is 1800. Also, for an internal combustion engine to reach its optimal torque and hp there is usually a fairly narrow range when compared to electric engines. In other words the electric is in its sweet spot from the time he hits the pedal. It is a pretty friggin' awesome car. I would love one and at $125K it doesn't seem to be overpriced. Too bad I don't have $125k laying around for a toy (50 mi range).
10-08-2015, 01:57 PM
#6
Ok, their website makes things a little more clear. Turns out the 1/4 is 9.89 seconds. which makes wayyyy more sense. But their website is even more contradictory. Front page says 1.79 now for 0-60 mph and the spec page says 2.4. So.....I'm more inclined to still believe the 2.4 well over the 1.79!
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10-08-2015, 03:09 PM
#9
haha that I'd imagine would be one hell of a ka-winky-dink. I don't know, I watched the video and they said 1.9 I was like no forking way. I have driven a turbo S and know what a 2.9 0-60 mph feels like. To be 1 second faster.....nope. Plus the turbo S does the 1/4 in like 10.4 I think?
10-08-2015, 05:12 PM
#11
I think its possible with electric setup. The car appears to be hooking very well, and with 100% torque available immediately, but im sure they have some fancy controllers/limiters on that rig.... idk I think its possible. Tha turbo S launch was on city pavement it looked like? What can that car do with slicks on the track?
10-08-2015, 09:15 PM
#14
A drag car has a very specific purpose and doesn't care as much about efficiency so they keep pulling that huge current to keep the torque astronomical as possible, because as rotor speed increases, torque decreases. So they use another gear to lower the rotor speed. Which is exactly why the battery range is total ****.
A street car won't run 8 psi in the tires either. It's all in the application.
Last edited by isis; 10-08-2015 at 09:28 PM.
10-09-2015, 09:45 AM
#16
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A Chevy Spark electric is faster than my V off the line!
Race one to 15-20mph and you'll be so confused. lol
For the record the Spark EV has 400ft-lbs of torque, which is ridiculous. So imagine a bigger more powerful EV motor in a vehicle that is meant to go fast
10-09-2015, 10:26 AM
#17
You have to understand that Electric motors generate MAX torque at Zero RPM. This allows you to have maximum torque right off the line with NO delay. With an internal combustion engine you have to rev the engine to get those values, with turbos you have to have load to generate boost, all these things take time which put it at a disadvantage compared to electric cars.
A Chevy Spark electric is faster than my V off the line!
Race one to 15-20mph and you'll be so confused. lol
For the record the Spark EV has 400ft-lbs of torque, which is ridiculous. So imagine a bigger more powerful EV motor in a vehicle that is meant to go fast
A Chevy Spark electric is faster than my V off the line!
Race one to 15-20mph and you'll be so confused. lol
For the record the Spark EV has 400ft-lbs of torque, which is ridiculous. So imagine a bigger more powerful EV motor in a vehicle that is meant to go fast
But this car will still be heavy, and the limitations of the tires with the weight? I find it hard to believe that it is beating every other EV by over a second on a zero to 60 mph time.
Have we forgot that he was reading his 0-60 "time" off of a drag slip? again, maybe I'm wrong, but I have not had a drag slip ever say my 0-60 mph time.
10-09-2015, 11:20 AM
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I'm with NIKDSC5 on this one. Something doesn't make sense. I didn't watch the first video (just the part about the time slip), but unless they made major improvements to the chassis I just don't see how a '60s era RWD street car chassis can put the power to the ground to get to 60mph that quickly. I dunno, maybe it's not that far-fetched on slicks - I don't know enough about drag racing to say. I agree with NIKDSC5, though, that it appears the guy is taking a 0-60mph time off a drag strip time slip, and that's just not a real thing.
On that note, comparing their (possible) 0-60mph time on slicks to a bunch of supercars on street tires is disingenuous. Throw slicks on one of the modern supercars/hypercars and I'm guessing you'd see sub-2.0sec 0-60mph times.
On that note, comparing their (possible) 0-60mph time on slicks to a bunch of supercars on street tires is disingenuous. Throw slicks on one of the modern supercars/hypercars and I'm guessing you'd see sub-2.0sec 0-60mph times.
