Ls6 Vs Ls2
#44
How about this if your car came with the LS6 then the LS6, if it came with the LS2 than the LS2. These cars like the Impala SS and are becoming collectors with low miles. If you take a LS6 up against a LS2 it will matter more the driver then anything else, 1/4 mile times show that. However if I was to Supercharge one over the other it would be the LS6 with the .5 less compression and the Sodium filled vales.
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How about this if your car came with the LS6 then the LS6, if it came with the LS2 than the LS2. These cars like the Impala SS and are becoming collectors with low miles. If you take a LS6 up against a LS2 it will matter more the driver then anything else, 1/4 mile times show that. However if I was to Supercharge one over the other it would be the LS6 with the .5 less compression and the Sodium filled vales.
#46
Disagree, the computer will pull more timing out because of the higher compression, less timing less horse power. It is amazing that I make 2 other great points and the focus goes too the LS 2 will make more horsepower with the blower. In the 1/4 mile what is the difference in time? between a .1 and .2 that is a little over a bumper. Reaction time, shifting speed, traction mean more. What is faster a LS6 with a cold air intake or a stock LS2? What worth more a 2005 CTS-V with 25,000 miles or a 2007 CTS-V with 90,000 miles? Which one of those would be faster? Why do I bring that up? The debate is which one is better? Well unless we are talking about 2 different enginess out of the car being put into a car then yes the LS2 as long as it has less miles would have a slight edge however if we are talking a numbers matching car with low to moderate miles I would never replace a LS6 with a LS2.
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In the Chicagoland Market they have not only stabilized but gone up a little and if it was not for the Recession I do not think they would have come down like they did. People said the same thing about a Impala SS and those are now considered a Collector and I believe I am not the only one who feels the CTS-V will too. To be clear, I am not saying they will be a High Desired Collector but they will be a Collector
#50
Those fat old chicks might last longer, are easier to please, and don't complain much when you wail on them. That new skinny chick costs you and arm and a leg, doesn't like to be played with and when she gets too hot she slows down when you want her most. In all seriousness though the LSA is a fantastic motor but for some guys the blower is an obstacle especially when you like the road course. I wouldn't turn one down though. The new V2 coupe SCCA World Challenge car would surprise everyone if it was LSA powered.
#51
The "same engine as a Z06" argument hasn't been cool for years. Try it in conversation.
"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."
"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"
"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"
"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"
"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"
"Oh....that's cool, I guess."
At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.
"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."
"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"
"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"
"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"
"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"
"Oh....that's cool, I guess."
At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.
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The "same engine as a Z06" argument hasn't been cool for years. Try it in conversation.
"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."
"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"
"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"
"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"
"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"
"Oh....that's cool, I guess."
At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.
"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."
"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"
"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"
"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"
"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"
"Oh....that's cool, I guess."
At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.
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Yea and that ls2 in a more recent corvette was slower then the c5 zo6 and the c5 Z beat it in just about every event they paired them up in. the LS2 C6 is a step down IMO and was a mistake on GMs part. The LS3 ***** all over the LS2 in every way just like the LSA ***** all over the ls6/ls2 in the V1s.
In 2004, the C5 Z06 started at $51,500. A 2005 C6 started at $43,700, and offered performance that was much closer to the Z06 than it was to a base C5. A C5 Z06 is slightly faster and handles better, but it's also a total stripper. You can't even get a power passenger seat. The C6 offered performance that is quite close, and a noticeable improvement over the C5 coupe. But had nice options like HUD, Nav, HID's, magnetic ride, huge trunk, etc. Or you could just get a stripper with Z51 for about $45,000 and have a car that was very close to a C5 Z but substantially cheaper.
And it was exactly one year between the C5 Z06, and the C6 Z06, which is absolutely and completely better than the C5 Z.
If you look at stock LS2 vs LS3 times for Corvettes in the 1/4, they are not far apart. The idea that the difference between the LS2 to LS3 is comparable to difference between the LSA and the LS2 is ridiculous.
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The "same engine as a Z06" argument hasn't been cool for years. Try it in conversation.
"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."
"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"
"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"
"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"
"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"
"Oh....that's cool, I guess."
At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.
"Same engine as the Corvette Z06."
"Oh the one with over 600hp? Wow!"
"No, that's the supercharged ZR1"
"Oh the one with the 7 liters and 7000rpm? That is AWESOME!"
"Nooo...the one they put in the Corvettes from 2001 to 2004"
"Oh....that's cool, I guess."
At least the LS2 was used in a more recent Corvette....I'm just saying that particular argument is dumb, and I have an 05.
"No, it's not that one, the supercharged one with 556hp. It's the one before it"
"Oh... So how much horsepower does it have?"
"400"
"Oh... Hmm... Well... that's not so bad"
I really had to bite my tongue on that one.
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So, who wants to buy my Bone Stock 6,400 mile '05 LS6 collector car?
Make me a stupid-high offer(and I do mean stoooopid), otherwise I'm going to continue to rack the miles on this thing!
Make me a stupid-high offer(and I do mean stoooopid), otherwise I'm going to continue to rack the miles on this thing!
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What have you quadrupled the mileage on your V since you bought it? I thought I remember it having around 1,600 or something ridiculous like that? I have a friend who inherited a 79 Vette from his dad that had 16,xxx on it. His uncles raised PURE HELL because he began driving it to work every Friday and on Sat and Sun. He told me his dad's biggest regret was having a car for 30 years and never enjoying it.....If you have it drive it...There are enough garage queens in the world already....FTW
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What have you quadrupled the mileage on your V since you bought it? I thought I remember it having around 1,600 or something ridiculous like that? I have a friend who inherited a 79 Vette from his dad that had 16,xxx on it. His uncles raised PURE HELL because he began driving it to work every Friday and on Sat and Sun. He told me his dad's biggest regret was having a car for 30 years and never enjoying it.....If you have it drive it...There are enough garage queens in the world already....FTW
Car had 1,380 miles back in June 2010 when I bought it. I do approx. 10,000 miles/year. So even if I keep it for the full 3 years of the warranty I purchased, it'll still only have 32,000+/- miles on it and by then be an eight year old car = still very low mileage for the year.
Who knows, if it treats me well it may stick around longer, but by then the V2's will be depreciated to a point that may be too hard to resist.
As for my Viper, it was already a year old when I bought it off the showroom floor(April '09), and now it's parked for the Winter. So by Spring when it sees daylight again it'll still only have 1,300 miles on it.
Oh yeah, Winter sucks.
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Basically, Yep!
Car had 1,380 miles back in June 2010 when I bought it. I do approx. 10,000 miles/year. So even if I keep it for the full 3 years of the warranty I purchased, it'll still only have 32,000+/- miles on it and by then be an eight year old car = still very low mileage for the year.
Who knows, if it treats me well it may stick around longer, but by then the V2's will be depreciated to a point that may be too hard to resist.
As for my Viper, it was already a year old when I bought it off the showroom floor(April '09), and now it's parked for the Winter. So by Spring when it sees daylight again it'll still only have 1,300 miles on it.
Oh yeah, Winter sucks.
Car had 1,380 miles back in June 2010 when I bought it. I do approx. 10,000 miles/year. So even if I keep it for the full 3 years of the warranty I purchased, it'll still only have 32,000+/- miles on it and by then be an eight year old car = still very low mileage for the year.
Who knows, if it treats me well it may stick around longer, but by then the V2's will be depreciated to a point that may be too hard to resist.
As for my Viper, it was already a year old when I bought it off the showroom floor(April '09), and now it's parked for the Winter. So by Spring when it sees daylight again it'll still only have 1,300 miles on it.
Oh yeah, Winter sucks.
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I agree, unfortunately I have the LS6 putting down 440 but you can bet with the LS2 I would be putting down bigger numbers due to more cubic inch. More cubes is the way to go but this is only if you plan for Mod Hell!! My 2 cents
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