5th gen v6 into 4th gen possible?
02-22-2018, 03:39 PM
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5th gen v6 into 4th gen possible? A friend of mine wrecked his 2012 v6 camaro. This thing made mad power after he got done with a few mods. Since it's easy access to me (and cheap) I was wondering if it was at all possible to take the engine, tranny, computer, whatever I need and swap it over into my 2001 4th gen? Anyone ever heard of this or even attempted it?
02-22-2018, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
I have no idea, but I'm curious how much "mad power" does this V6 actually make lol?
02-22-2018, 05:27 PM
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A friend of mine wrecked his 2012 v6 camaro. This thing made mad power after he got done with a few mods. Since it's easy access to me (and cheap) I was wondering if it was at all possible to take the engine, tranny, computer, whatever I need and swap it over into my 2001 4th gen? Anyone ever heard of this or even attempted it?
02-22-2018, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by King Nothing
A few mods on a v6 and he was out running GT’s????? What year GT’s . . . 1998? A new 5.0 would stomp him to the ground unless he has a blower on it with full supporting mods . . . or those mustang drivers just sucked.
02-22-2018, 08:33 PM
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I don't know the new 5.0 Mustangs I've run don't seem that quick. I've walked on every one with my near stock 01 ws6. 2-3 years ago some older dood in a GT500 or GT350 newer style I'm not sure what year pulled up along side me and wanted to race. I beat the crap outta him, we got to the next light which was maybe 1 mile away and the look on his face was priceless! He figured no way a TA is gonna school him, I could tell when he asked to race he thought it was no contest. My car hooked and BOOKED
02-23-2018, 01:10 AM
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I don't know the new 5.0 Mustangs I've run don't seem that quick. I've walked on every one with my near stock 01 ws6. 2-3 years ago some older dood in a GT500 or GT350 newer style I'm not sure what year pulled up along side me and wanted to race. I beat the crap outta him, we got to the next light which was maybe 1 mile away and the look on his face was priceless! He figured no way a TA is gonna school him, I could tell when he asked to race he thought it was no contest. My car hooked and BOOKED
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02-23-2018, 01:41 AM
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I'm sure it can be done, The only issue you might have is getting your gauges to function.
I actually was given a brand new 2016 LFX engine and trans in late 2015 but didn't want to mess with it so I sold it. Kind of wish I would have kept it. A new car was stolen off the lot and promptly flipped on it's top and believe it or not since it was never registered the dealership just gave it to the company I worked for. They were just going to crush it so I was able to pull anything I wanted from it, I spent the whole day pulling every useable part from it. I still have the console/seats/fuel tank/electric steering rack/most of the dash.
Anyway back to the subject at hand, There are a few people making stand alone harnesses and a quick search of youtube shows a few swaps. Here is a video from a company that made a harness, I would talk to them, I'm sure they can tell you what all will work on the swap.
I actually was given a brand new 2016 LFX engine and trans in late 2015 but didn't want to mess with it so I sold it. Kind of wish I would have kept it. A new car was stolen off the lot and promptly flipped on it's top and believe it or not since it was never registered the dealership just gave it to the company I worked for. They were just going to crush it so I was able to pull anything I wanted from it, I spent the whole day pulling every useable part from it. I still have the console/seats/fuel tank/electric steering rack/most of the dash.
Anyway back to the subject at hand, There are a few people making stand alone harnesses and a quick search of youtube shows a few swaps. Here is a video from a company that made a harness, I would talk to them, I'm sure they can tell you what all will work on the swap.
02-23-2018, 01:47 AM
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The amount of work it would take to a v6 that is n/a to even make it a drivers race is ridiculous. A 2012 v6 camaro will run mid 14's, 1.5 seconds slower, that's a whole lot of n/a power to make up just to make it a drivers race with the coyote pulling harder the faster you got going.
Imo not a worth while swap.
02-23-2018, 01:50 AM
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Otherwise I agree with the others above; if it's a newer 5.0 then the other car wasn't really racing or is a horrible driver, and/or this V6 car has a lot more work done than that of which you're aware. If it's the former, then you'll want to figure this out before spending the time to convert to this engine only to be disappointed in its actual performance. You can do so much more with a Gen III/IV V8, and the 4th gen F-body is already setup for one; no point in swapping to a V6 from a different platform IMO. Does your current car have an LS1 or is it a V6? You only mentioned that it was a 2001, not which model or trim. If you already have an LS1 then this V6 would be a huge step in the wrong direction (much more complexity, less stock power and even less stock torque, less overall potential).
02-23-2018, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Must've been stock 5.0s from 1995 or earlier. That would certainly make sense.
Otherwise I agree with the others above; if it's a newer 5.0 then the other car wasn't really racing or is a horrible driver, and/or this V6 car has a lot more work done than that of which you're aware. If it's the former, then you'll want to figure this out before spending the time to convert to this engine only to be disappointed in its actual performance. You can do so much more with a Gen III/IV V8, and the 4th gen F-body is already setup for one; no point in swapping to a V6 from a different platform IMO. Does your current car have an LS1 or is it a V6? You only mentioned that it was a 2001, not which model or trim. If you already have an LS1 then this V6 would be a huge step in the wrong direction (much more complexity, less stock power and even less stock torque, less overall potential).
Otherwise I agree with the others above; if it's a newer 5.0 then the other car wasn't really racing or is a horrible driver, and/or this V6 car has a lot more work done than that of which you're aware. If it's the former, then you'll want to figure this out before spending the time to convert to this engine only to be disappointed in its actual performance. You can do so much more with a Gen III/IV V8, and the 4th gen F-body is already setup for one; no point in swapping to a V6 from a different platform IMO. Does your current car have an LS1 or is it a V6? You only mentioned that it was a 2001, not which model or trim. If you already have an LS1 then this V6 would be a huge step in the wrong direction (much more complexity, less stock power and even less stock torque, less overall potential).
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My car is an 01 v6 with over 165000 miles on it. Tranny went out and now im either gonna have to replace the tranny for 1500-1800 dollars or swap this super 6 camaro engine in. I can't afford an ls1 nor do I want one for this car. It's a convertible. I don't want a chit ton of power because the vert makes the frame more likely to twist.
That might not be the cheapest option up front, depending on the cost of the 3.6L in question, but the various swap expenses will drive costs up quick. There is no free lunch here.
02-23-2018, 09:19 PM
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Seems like the 5th gen swap is out of the question for me right now. What a cool idea though. I might try something like that later. But I've honestly looked all over. I found a used trans online for 450 but this website has terrible reviews. Most are people with Honda's but it's still sketchy. Anyone ever bought from Automotix? The trans has 110k on it and it's off a 2002, newer and less miles than my trans.
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Seems like the 5th gen swap is out of the question for me right now. What a cool idea though. I might try something like that later. But I've honestly looked all over. I found a used trans online for 450 but this website has terrible reviews. Most are people with Honda's but it's still sketchy. Anyone ever bought from Automotix? The trans has 110k on it and it's off a 2002, newer and less miles than my trans.
I think any used transmission is going to be hit or miss. Might have better luck buying direct from an individual with a good trader rating here or on ebay, etc. Used wholesalers won't have much idea about the history of the unit nor can you speak to the previous owner.
02-24-2018, 06:03 AM
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My car is an 01 v6 with over 165000 miles on it. Tranny went out and now im either gonna have to replace the tranny for 1500-1800 dollars or swap this super 6 camaro engine in. I can't afford an ls1 nor do I want one for this car. It's a convertible. I don't want a chit ton of power because the vert makes the frame more likely to twist.
And no, your convertable does not mean you will get a twisted frame, this is not the 70s any more...
plenty of powerful 'verts out there...
02-24-2018, 09:08 AM
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A standard rebuild where I live is 1500 to 1800. That's between the numbers everyone is quoting me. I've always wanted to ls swap but don't you need more than just engine and trans? Like: computer, reared, driveshaft... ect.