just bought a 69 camaro (need help)
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just bought a 69 camaro (need help)
hey i just picked up a 1969 camaro and im looking to modify it already beacuse its slow its equipped with a 350 or 305 4 speed but its really slow so im looking to swap it out. anyways i have a chance to buy a 94 camaro z28 with a lt4/4l60e and wanted to know if the brakes/rear end and other misc parts bolt onto my camaro beacuse i do know the motor will bolt right up but not too sure of everything else any help will be greatly appreciated thanks.
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Why not just do an LSX swap? They make pretty much everything needed to "bolt-in" an LSX into a 67-69 Camaro now. Motor mounts, longtube headers, tranny x-member, wiring harness, PCM, etc... all available.
I wouldn't have much interest in an LT4, that damn nice looking '69 needs a cooler engine
I wouldn't have much interest in an LT4, that damn nice looking '69 needs a cooler engine
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i can get that lt4 car for 3k vs 98-2002 ls1 car is going to run me atleast 6-7k also i want to run the brakes off the camaro i buy wanted to know if they will bolt on.
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just build ur own engine and use a 1st gen block. i have found that stroker and de-stroked kits make hella power. a 377 has been proven to make up to 600-650hp all motor. its a 400 block with 350 crank that revs to 7500 rpm. or u can use a 383 as well.
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4th gen brakes can be installed on 1st gens with some custom adapter brackets, machined down front hubs, and 4th gen rotors. There are conversion kits available.
I suppose for $3K that isn't a bad deal. You could always find a wrecked LS1 car for about the same price though.
I suppose for $3K that isn't a bad deal. You could always find a wrecked LS1 car for about the same price though.
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you need adaptors for the front brakes. Its a 50 dollar part i believe
If you are leaving the stock rear 69 setup you will need two right side backing plates from the 4th gen camaro.
If you want a 510 hp 355 forged roller motor send me an IM. I need to sell one!
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If you are leaving the stock rear 69 setup you will need two right side backing plates from the 4th gen camaro.
If you want a 510 hp 355 forged roller motor send me an IM. I need to sell one!
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
4th gen brakes can be installed on 1st gens with some custom adapter brackets, machined down front hubs, and 4th gen rotors. There are conversion kits available.
I suppose for $3K that isn't a bad deal. You could always find a wrecked LS1 car for about the same price though.
I suppose for $3K that isn't a bad deal. You could always find a wrecked LS1 car for about the same price though.
I ran a LTX/4l60e tranny in my old camaro as well. Makes great power, esp low end torque. If it's a low mileage engine that you're looking at, might be a good deal. However, the problem that I had, and made me absolutely HATE my LTX was the freakin opti-spark. When it goes out, what a butt whippin to replace. There are aftermarket replacement systems, but they're lots of $$$. If I had it all to do over again man, I do just as Nine Ball stated and find a LS motor. I sincerely think you'll be happier with it. Don't get me wrong, I loved the performance of my LTX setup when it was running right, but when that freakin optispark starts to fail, you'll be in for a weekend of knuckle-bustin and several hundred bucks down.
Just do your homework before buying, and good luck with your decision. BTW, Congrats on finding your old gal. post some before pics of her...show her off a little.
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Hate to burst your bubble but it's not a real Z28. The X44 code would be either an LF7, L14, L65 or LM1 car.
Cowl tag decoding: http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#CowlTag
X codes: http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes
You most likely have an L14 (307/210) or L65 (350/250) car because of the 05c build date. I'd trend even closer to the 307 as it has a 10 bolt rearend.
Don't get me wrong, it's a nice find. Enjoy it however you wish. Like Nineball, I'd do an LS1 vs LT1 if you want to change to a fuel injected car. Me personally, I'd build a killer Gen I big cid small block.
Cowl tag decoding: http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#CowlTag
X codes: http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes
You most likely have an L14 (307/210) or L65 (350/250) car because of the 05c build date. I'd trend even closer to the 307 as it has a 10 bolt rearend.
Don't get me wrong, it's a nice find. Enjoy it however you wish. Like Nineball, I'd do an LS1 vs LT1 if you want to change to a fuel injected car. Me personally, I'd build a killer Gen I big cid small block.
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another question do you know if the 10 bolt out of a 4th gen camaro will bolt onto my 69 camaro.
It's not a bolt in. You have leaf springs, the 4th gen has coil springs, lower control arms, a torque arm and a track bar - all things you'd have to fab up mounting locations for. It can be done though.
The rear in the 69 is an 8.125" small 10-bolt and is marginally stronger than the 7.5" in the 4th gen. I've run a rat motor in front of a 4.11 geared 8.125" 10-bolt but I also had an auto tranny. IIWY, I would look for a 8.5" 10-bolt from a 69-74 X car (Nova and clones). That IS a bolt in and it's almost as strong as a 12-bolt (8.875").
Your call cuz it's your car.
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i have a 12 bolt housing out of a 67 camaro ill part with for 300$$
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Originally Posted by gangbang malloy
just build ur own engine and use a 1st gen block. i have found that stroker and de-stroked kits make hella power. a 377 has been proven to make up to 600-650hp all motor. its a 400 block with 350 crank that revs to 7500 rpm. or u can use a 383 as well.
slap heads,intake,cam,and carb,headers on the bad boy for less then 3k everything new, even less if you go to a swap meet
my 68 burns into 3rd quite easily, havent even tried to go to fourth was messing around, basically stock 350...guy said there was some head work done, and 3.73's thats it
been doing maintence on it...plugs, wires, HEI distributor, oil change...real work comes after paintjob
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Originally Posted by Z-Convert
Does it have multi leaf or mono leaf perches. 67 was mono leaf only w/radius rod attachment. Both shocks mounted forward of the axle. 68-69 had multileaf with staggered shock mounts. All are the same axle to axle width though.
All 67 Camaros/Firebird had mono-leafs, but only big block SS and Z/28 models had the right hand traction bar. All 67 models had the one-year-only non-staggered shock arrangement.
68-69 Camaros could have either mono-leaf or multi-leaf springs (most base model 307/327 cars got the mono-leafs).
All 67-69 widths were the same. 70-81 F-body rears were about 1-1/2" wider.
Derek
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Correction here.
All 67 Camaros/Firebird had mono-leafs, but only big block SS and Z/28 models had the right hand traction bar. All 67 models had the one-year-only non-staggered shock arrangement.
68-69 Camaros could have either mono-leaf or multi-leaf springs (most base model 307/327 cars got the mono-leafs).
All 67-69 widths were the same. 70-81 F-body rears were about 1-1/2" wider.
Derek
All 67 Camaros/Firebird had mono-leafs, but only big block SS and Z/28 models had the right hand traction bar. All 67 models had the one-year-only non-staggered shock arrangement.
68-69 Camaros could have either mono-leaf or multi-leaf springs (most base model 307/327 cars got the mono-leafs).
All 67-69 widths were the same. 70-81 F-body rears were about 1-1/2" wider.
Derek