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Old 12-03-2011, 05:52 AM
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What are you using for your rear disc swap? I have a set of 4th gen/c5 17" wheels I got cheap with good tires some years back, looks like I'll be running spacers, at least for now.
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When the C5 disk rears are added, he said to remove the cartridge from the rear brake circuit of the combination valve and install a proportioning valve in the rear circuit. I'll post up pictures when this is completed.
DId this ever get finished?
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Originally Posted by doober1
What are you using for your rear disc swap? I have a set of 4th gen/c5 17" wheels I got cheap with good tires some years back, looks like I'll be running spacers, at least for now.
I will be using some C5 rear calipers with LS1 abutment brackets and rotors and park brake backing plates. I want to retain the park brake. I would have to do a little mod to the axle flange to bolt up the park brake assembly from what i have read..
Old 12-04-2011, 06:30 AM
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That'd be cool if you get this done, I'd love to have something besides the chincy stock brakes, they don't lend much to confidence even in daily driving.
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these work great. I have been using the c5 front and rear setuo for sometime now like 3 years.light years over the stock set up.ive put like 10k miles on this set up.try www.flynbye.com.they have lots of diff setups.
Old 12-09-2011, 11:27 PM
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This is very good info. I have th s10 spindles complete I'm wondering instead of installing the stock C5 calipers why not just up grade to a 4 or 6 pot caliper kit for a C5 corvette!
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Originally Posted by vjeff2074
This is very good info. I have th s10 spindles complete I'm wondering instead of installing the stock C5 calipers why not just up grade to a 4 or 6 pot caliper kit for a C5 corvette!
Because they are usually more expensive and in higher demand... I actually found my base model C6 calipers on craigslist for $50 which were listed foe a couple weeks before i figured out i could use them with my ZQ8 spindles if i got the adapter bracket. Here is the before pic.
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I did have to do some grinding on the spindles for the adapter bracket bolts to seat right, along with the spindle casting flash! more pics to show what was needed for my setup.
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casting flash ground off before getting sent off for powdercoating.
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Sorry guys for so many pics but i figured it would help some...
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anyone know how does the blazer spindle differ from the zq8 one?
Old 12-10-2011, 06:16 PM
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anyone know how does the blazer spindle differ from the zq8 one?
To use the mechanical drawing shown in post #1 you need the spindle assys from S10 Blazers (I think 98 and later, 2-door, 2wd) that came equipped w/ unitized three bolt bearing packs and larger dual piston PBR calipers and 11” rotors.

See attached photo for what the correct steering knuckle/spindle looks like....
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nice info, saved for later, just pulled my wheels off the front to tear down the front suspension so i can do some frame work and noticed how small the front brake set up is compared to my rear discs (on my El Co), so gotta do this, that stock stuff isnt going back on...

one question, does the s10 spindle raise the front up? cause dont want to do that, if anything i would like drop spindles...
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Originally Posted by Monte_LS3
To use the mechanical drawing shown in post #1 you need the spindle assys from S10 Blazers (I think 98 and later, 2-door, 2wd) that came equipped w/ unitized three bolt bearing packs and larger dual piston PBR calipers and 11” rotors.

See attached photo for what the correct steering knuckle/spindle looks like....
do you know the part numbers? i found the hubs....but having a hard time finding the spindles.
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the spindles can be found on 98 and up 2wd blazer,s-10 pickup with the twin piston calipers.ive done two of these coversions and it is way worth it
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Originally Posted by my406cid
the spindles can be found on 98 and up 2wd blazer,s-10 pickup with the twin piston calipers.ive done two of these coversions and it is way worth it
doesn't really help with part numbers? thats what i'm trying to find.
Old 12-11-2011, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by steve40
doesn't really help with part numbers? thats what i'm trying to find.
This is what you are looking for, (lots of these ads on eebay, 98 and later, must be 2wd,,find one wrecked in the rear) give these guys a call and ask for pics:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/290617669555...84.m1438.l2649

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/290617670376...84.m1438.l2649
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Originally Posted by LSCustoms
nice info, saved for later, just pulled my wheels off the front to tear down the front suspension so i can do some frame work and noticed how small the front brake set up is compared to my rear discs (on my El Co), so gotta do this, that stock stuff isnt going back on...

one question, does the s10 spindle raise the front up? cause dont want to do that, if anything i would like drop spindles...
No it doesn't raise the front up at all. if you want to go with a dropped spindle here are some:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Bell+Tech/146/2102/10002/-1
pretty pricey and you still have to pick up the hubs which are pretty expensive as well. BTW i just finished rereading your rear LS1 brake upgrade thread on Gbody forum looking good!! I finally scored some backing plates, parking brake assemblies and cables out of a 98 Firebird yesterday and will be starting installing them on 8.5 rear. Gonna clean them up and paint them, did you ever figure out the park brake? BTW i have pulled a few sets and only found them in 98+ 2wd Blazers no S-10's have them even the Xtreme doesn't have them.. They are hard to find here in Denver cuz everybody usually has a 4WD for the snow..

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I did the same front brake setup with C5 calipers & rotors. Probably January I am goiing to switch to front & rear C6 brakes.

I also switched my brake booster & master cylinder to a bigger unit from a B body Caprice. If you pull it from one in the bone yard, get the one with "BW" on the master cylinder, it has the same fittings as the Monte. Just remove & replace.
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Originally Posted by samckitt
I did the same front brake setup with C5 calipers & rotors. Probably January I am goiing to switch to front & rear C6 brake.
I believe C6 Vettes have three different size front rotors:
Std 325mm x 32mm thk (Same as C5)
Z51 340mm x 32mm
Z06 355mm x 32mm

You should be able to use the mechanical dwg in post #1 ( based on C5 325mm x 32mm rotors) as a baseline and just increase the 3mm dim between mounting holes and abutment bracket holes by 1/2 the increase in rotor dia. For instance, Z51 (340-325)/2 = 7.5mm. The new dim would be 3mm + 7.5mm = 10.5mm

Anything larger than 325mm rotor will probably drive you to 18" wheels min.
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Originally Posted by 85GPLEf41
No it doesn't raise the front up at all. if you want to go with a dropped spindle here are some:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Bell+Tech/146/2102/10002/-1
pretty pricey and you still have to pick up the hubs which are pretty expensive as well. BTW i just finished rereading your rear LS1 brake upgrade thread on Gbody forum looking good!! I finally scored some backing plates, parking brake assemblies and cables out of a 98 Firebird yesterday and will be starting installing them on 8.5 rear. Gonna clean them up and paint them, did you ever figure out the park brake? BTW i have pulled a few sets and only found them in 98+ 2wd Blazers no S-10's have them even the Xtreme doesn't have them.. They are hard to find here in Denver cuz everybody usually has a 4WD for the snow..
thanks for the info and yes I figured the ebrake out, havent got my *** up and put it on yet, cause may be changing the rear soon, but I can pm you some pics and how I will do it, later
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Thanks i appreciate it LSCustoms! hey Monte_LS3 so if i wanted to upgrade to the Z51 rotor i would just have to swap the abutment bracket or the adaptor bracket?
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I was wondering if the Steering arm off of the S10 spindle is in the correct location for the G-Body, Bump Steer ?


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