ls swap into 89 mustang with Maximum motorsports Kmember
02-06-2010, 12:16 AM
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ls swap into 89 mustang with Maximum motorsports Kmember I just bought a 1989 mustang coupe that had a dart block 331 stroker in it. The car already has a maximum motorsports tubular k member, a-arms, and coil overs. I would really like to just use this k-member if possible. I don't want to have to swap to the AJE. Does any one make mounts that will bolt in place of the 5.0 mounts on this k member?
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I just bought a 1989 mustang coupe that had a dart block 331 stroker in it. The car already has a maximum motorsports tubular k member, a-arms, and coil overs. I would really like to just use this k-member if possible. I don't want to have to swap to the AJE. Does any one make mounts that will bolt in place of the 5.0 mounts on this k member?
02-06-2010, 12:36 AM
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The car (HAD) A 331 in it. The engine was sold before I got the roller. The 331 was a Dart block build with ported trick flow heads and cam with lots of money invested in it but just like most ford 302 based motor it didn't make any power. I have made more hp with a stock ls1 cam only than what the 331 stroker made fully built with heads and cam.
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The car (HAD) A 331 in it. The engine was sold before I got the roller. The 331 was a Dart block build with ported trick flow heads and cam with lots of money invested in it but just like most ford 302 based motor it didn't make any power. I have made more hp with a stock ls1 cam only than what the 331 stroker made fully built with heads and cam.
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and for the record 331s can be fast my buddy has on with out of the box parts and runs 10.4 with a 5speed and 150 shot. its all about having the corect parts.
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The car (HAD) A 331 in it. The engine was sold before I got the roller. The 331 was a Dart block build with ported trick flow heads and cam with lots of money invested in it but just like most ford 302 based motor it didn't make any power. I have made more hp with a stock ls1 cam only than what the 331 stroker made fully built with heads and cam.
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lol yeah yea, i'll put my ford up against any chevy or any chevy powered ford any day of the week lol. but anyway i'll stop messing up your thread now glw your build
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Anyway can we get back to the mm kmember as it is really nice piece of hardware. I would like to know about any mounts that may work like the 4.6 mounts do if you extend the leg
03-31-2010, 02:35 AM
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Why I went LS from a ford 302 or 351W in my fox As a former ford only guy I am going LSX 6.0 Lq4 into my 1985 ford mustang hatch because of the following: for 750.00 (used wrecking yard motor) I got 364 cubes, aluminum water pump, 15 degree aluminum heads 317's that flow like twisted wedge ford aftermarket heads with 210 intake runners 2.00 intake valves 75 exhaust, aluminum deep dish truck pan, factory windage tray, 6 bolt mains, a block that will never crack no matter how much boost I throw at it (these blocks have been to 1800hp), factory gun drilled crank reliable to 1200 hp, factory crank fired ignition system with way less friction and timing slop (just add the MSD 6010 box for 300.00 and I have a crank fired digtial 7 type setup with built in 2 step and rev limiter, boost retard etc, factory truck coils that have been well over 1000 hp on boosted engines and have spark output equivelant to a a MSD after market coil, I simply add a good cam, valve springs, ARP rod bolts, free flowing cool air and exhaust and I have well over 400hp and 400 ft lbs of torque naturally aspirated (add factory L92 heads at 399.00 each and its 550hp) naturally aspirated. I bolt on my 550.00 S400 75MM turbo, cheap air to air intercooler, pump gas with meth injection, 93 lb injectors, Mega squirt fuel controller, built power glide tranny and stick this combo into my 2500 lb drag car roller with 3.73 gears and I have at least 800 to 900 flywheel hp with mid 5's in the 1/8th, and high 8's in the quarter at 15 to 18 lbs of boost.
After getting down tuning completely with the efi and MSD box, if I want to build this motor all I add are h beam forged rods and turbo forged pistons with aftermarket heads and I have a motor that will handle 1200 hp all day long. This puts me into low 5's in the 1/8th and low 8's in the quarter for a fraction of what it will cost me to build a ford 302 or 351W with a dart based block.
The cost of the dart block alone builds my whole LQ4 short block which is designed to have much lower friction throughout the motor, no distributor with resultant drag and mechanical timing slop not to mention all the extra money aftermarket distributor & ignition components, dart block, 2 step box, would cost me etc.
The LS motor is hands down WAY cheaper to build to go fast. Put it into the dirt cheap, aerodynamic, light with factory 4 link style drag friendly suspension, 8.8 stout light factory rear end, and rack & pinion front end fox body mustang and you have one hell of a cheap to build, wicked fast, awesome drag race car.
So for all you Chevy only or Ford only entire car purists consider this. When you see a funny car drag race, John Force in his mustang, and a Chevy guy in his camaro drag racing, look under the flipped up fiber glass body and you find a Hemi aftermarket block motor, with a Lenco trans and dana rear end. Not a damn thing on either car is Ford or Chevy. But the entire crowd is into rooting for Ford vs Chevy for their favored side.
Also look at all the Chevy guys with ford 9 inch rear ends, all the Mustang guys running power glides and turbo 400's etc.
Real drag racers have been mixing and matching all the best parts and bodies and motors in drag racing since the sport began in the 1950's.
Does anyone still not see the light???
Hpbob
After getting down tuning completely with the efi and MSD box, if I want to build this motor all I add are h beam forged rods and turbo forged pistons with aftermarket heads and I have a motor that will handle 1200 hp all day long. This puts me into low 5's in the 1/8th and low 8's in the quarter for a fraction of what it will cost me to build a ford 302 or 351W with a dart based block.
The cost of the dart block alone builds my whole LQ4 short block which is designed to have much lower friction throughout the motor, no distributor with resultant drag and mechanical timing slop not to mention all the extra money aftermarket distributor & ignition components, dart block, 2 step box, would cost me etc.
The LS motor is hands down WAY cheaper to build to go fast. Put it into the dirt cheap, aerodynamic, light with factory 4 link style drag friendly suspension, 8.8 stout light factory rear end, and rack & pinion front end fox body mustang and you have one hell of a cheap to build, wicked fast, awesome drag race car.
So for all you Chevy only or Ford only entire car purists consider this. When you see a funny car drag race, John Force in his mustang, and a Chevy guy in his camaro drag racing, look under the flipped up fiber glass body and you find a Hemi aftermarket block motor, with a Lenco trans and dana rear end. Not a damn thing on either car is Ford or Chevy. But the entire crowd is into rooting for Ford vs Chevy for their favored side.
Also look at all the Chevy guys with ford 9 inch rear ends, all the Mustang guys running power glides and turbo 400's etc.
Real drag racers have been mixing and matching all the best parts and bodies and motors in drag racing since the sport began in the 1950's.
Does anyone still not see the light???
Hpbob
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oh ok my bad lol. 302s just got bad rep cause most people cant build them right imo. but to each his own i suppose.
and for the record 331s can be fast my buddy has on with out of the box parts and runs 10.4 with a 5speed and 150 shot. its all about having the corect parts.
and for the record 331s can be fast my buddy has on with out of the box parts and runs 10.4 with a 5speed and 150 shot. its all about having the corect parts.
07-27-2010, 12:03 PM
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so can you use the MM k-member? what mounts will fit it or do you have to fab them?
edit: some people have used the MM k-member, but fabbed their own mounts.
edit: some people have used the MM k-member, but fabbed their own mounts.
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Great thread here, except for the Chevy vs Ford flaming...
Back to the technical questions of this thread. I am building an 89 Fox with a L33 version LS1 5.3L all aluminum from the 2006 GMC truck. I made modified 4.6L motor mounts, and I am running the Quicktime LS to T5 bellhousing. Oh, and I have the Granatelli K Member set up for the 4.6L mod engine. Everything goes in just about perfectly, but I need to adjust the mounts to get the engine in straight and true and move it forward about .5 inch for exhaust header clearance. This is a road race / track day / auto -x car, not a drag car, thats why I didn't just use the AJE Kmember.
Anyone done an install similar to this?
Back to the technical questions of this thread. I am building an 89 Fox with a L33 version LS1 5.3L all aluminum from the 2006 GMC truck. I made modified 4.6L motor mounts, and I am running the Quicktime LS to T5 bellhousing. Oh, and I have the Granatelli K Member set up for the 4.6L mod engine. Everything goes in just about perfectly, but I need to adjust the mounts to get the engine in straight and true and move it forward about .5 inch for exhaust header clearance. This is a road race / track day / auto -x car, not a drag car, thats why I didn't just use the AJE Kmember.
Anyone done an install similar to this?