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Old 01-04-2011, 01:02 PM
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Copper, pic in post 3.
I am sorry. I was not specific enough. Do you know what the actually color code is? I thought it looked like GM Sunset Orange Metallic.
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Oh, I've actually got that from the previous owner. I'll get back to you when I find it.
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yeah, 442s are badass... ls1 442 though?

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Originally Posted by garys 68
I removed the factory air and put in Classic Auto Air. Now there's a big empty space in front of the passenger side firewall.
I didn't see a kit made for the Cutlass on Classic Auto Air's website. I'd like to do something like this to my '71. Are you using a kit for a Chevelle?
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I'm using their universal kit, cable operated. The stock defrost and vent ducts fit the hose really well. The modification to use the stock controls was minimal. I did change the cam for the AC "on" rather than using the CA switch, but that's not necessary.
The only downside to the universal kit is that the air door only separates the vent/AC and heat/defrost ducts, so you cant separate heat from defrost. Not a big deal to me since I'll be using vent/AC 99% of the time.
I've installe Vintage Air and Classic Air. The cable operated Classic seemed the easiest to modify, but both companies are great to work with and have good products.
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I didn't see a kit made for the Cutlass on Classic Auto Air's website. I'd like to do something like this to my '71. Are you using a kit for a Chevelle?
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Originally Posted by garys 68
I've installed Vintage Air and Classic Air. The cable operated Classic seemed the easiest to modify, but both companies are great to work with and have good products.
Good to know.
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Originally Posted by garys 68
I'm using their universal kit, cable operated. The stock defrost and vent ducts fit the hose really well. The modification to use the stock controls was minimal. I did change the cam for the AC "on" rather than using the CA switch, but that's not necessary.
The only downside to the universal kit is that the air door only separates the vent/AC and heat/defrost ducts, so you cant separate heat from defrost. Not a big deal to me since I'll be using vent/AC 99% of the time.
I've installe Vintage Air and Classic Air. The cable operated Classic seemed the easiest to modify, but both companies are great to work with and have good products.
Cool, thanks!
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Mating a 10 spline Muncie to an LS motor made easy.
The Sachs 1050 flywheel ($50 Oreileys) is drilled for an old school pressure plate. It's tapped for metric bolts though.
The 11" pressure plate/clutch is Sachs K555203 ($119 Oreileys) and the bolt holes line up. However, 3 of the holes are slightly smaller and will need to be drilled out. The other advantage to this clutch is that I can swap out a $30 26 spline clutch disk later if I want to change to another trans (Richmond, T10, etc).
The only downside is that the flywheel is thick and heavy.
Ialso checked clearance with a standard BBC 621 bell housing, looks good. still need to 0 it in though.
And theres plenty of engagement with the LS7 pilot bearing.


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Pretty much everyone thast's done the swap have had issues with PS pulley interference with the steering box, so I figured I would swap it even before I test fit.
$15 for 300-123 pulley should provide plenty of clearance.
Oh one footnote. The old pulley is 0.9" deep, the new one 0.5". If you try to get the pulley to line up with the truck accessories, it will bind on the PS pump snout before it's aligned. I added a couple washers between the pump and bracket to move it back.

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It got cold here so I'm concentrating on stuff I can do indoors.
Like making new door panels starting with a sheet of 1/8" pvc.
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heatgun?? pvc heater?

totally giving me ideas for my interior
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Originally Posted by garys 68
It got cold here so I'm concentrating on stuff I can do indoors.
Like making new door panels starting with a sheet of 1/8" pvc.
How heavy is that?
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It's probably 3-4 lbs more than the old metal and paper door. But on the plus side, I wont need as much sound deadenening material. I just laid down about 30 sq ft of sound deadener on the floor, that stuff is heavy. I'll leave it off the doors until after I can check it out.
Heat gun or heater....sounds hi tech. Look at the pic here and you'll figure out my heat source.
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i see.. so you beat it into position with that 5 speed...

where do you get this stuff? ive never seen it at home deepot/etc
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I screwd the old top edge to the work bench. Screwed a 1 x 4 over the pvc to prevent it from bulging below the bend.. Then heated with the torch and pushed the edge down to form over the curved metal piece.
Check out plastics suppliers in the yellow pages. I've bought sheets of pvc, plexi, and lexan from Regal Plastics here in StL. They always seem to have anything I need.
Oh and that's the Muncie I rebuilt earlier in this thread.
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Originally Posted by garys 68
Mating a 10 spline Muncie to an LS motor made easy.
The Sachs 1050 flywheel ($50 Oreileys) is drilled for an old school pressure plate. It's tapped for metric bolts though.
The 11" pressure plate/clutch is Sachs K555203 ($119 Oreileys) and the bolt holes line up. However, 3 of the holes are slightly smaller and will need to be drilled out. The other advantage to this clutch is that I can swap out a $30 26 spline clutch disk later if I want to change to another trans (Richmond, T10, etc).
The only downside is that the flywheel is thick and heavy.
Ialso checked clearance with a standard BBC 621 bell housing, looks good. still need to 0 it in though.
And theres plenty of engagement with the LS7 pilot bearing.

What are you doing for the bellhousing?
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621 BBC bell housing.
Although I kinda wish I would have got another Keisler. They're really machined well and much heavier.

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Awesome man. Can't wait to see it completed.
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Frame mounts in. Fabbed a couple new front brake lines. Ready for test fit.
It's supposed to be around 40 degrees later this week, so I'll try to get a test fit with the tall frame mounts.
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I would strip and por 15 the frame and suspension components while everythings out


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