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2BFAST's 69 Camaro LS1/60E swap

Alright everyone, after selling my blown & sprayed Silverado SS I have taken on a new challenge. Integrating new technology into classic style. I have modded late model cars & trucks mainly GM so the LS and late model hot rod scene isnt new to me. But mixing that with a classic car is so lets get it on......

The Car: 1969 Camaro. By the body numbers this car is an X44. Decoded as orginally Cortez silver with navy blue vinyl top and navy blue vinyl seats! :barf: It was also a 307 car. That is all I can get out of the body tag.

Main thing is this is the better half's car as she bought it from her uncle.Long story short is her uncle has had this car for years and was his life. It was probably at a car show damn near every weekend for years. Here in the last 4-5 years his health has declined and hasnt had it to keep with it and has sat ever since. He made the decision to let it go here recently and she couldnt see anyone else owning it other than someone in the family so we took it home.

Its an older restoration sometime in the mid/late 90's. Its painted Saphire blue pearl with white stripes which is actually a Ford color code. Complete tweed interior :barf: Gen I small block 355, TH350 trans, 10 bolt rear. Its a really solid car just completly outdated.

Here she is the night we brought it home.

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Stopped by a really cool place down the road from the house. Old Skelly station down the road. Thought it would make a cool pic which it did obviously

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This is where I come in the picture......bwahahahaha

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And it begins.......

That is a very nice car. Now all you have to do is decide which LS motor you want to put in it and what transmission. The 10 bolt rear may or may not be a problem depending on the power level. It is probably a 8.2" but could have been changed out to a 8.5". If so that will solve any horsepower problems.

I found a complete LS1/60E out of a 2000 SS Camaro locally with approx 62k on it. Also has a complete harness without a connector cut or broke.

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After seperating the trans and harness

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Here is the forcast which is subject to change as it happens with every project and will edit accordingly:

ENGINE:
00' LS1 short block
LS6 intake
Factory casting 243 heads milled .015", cleaned, and valve job w/ new valve seals
ARP Head Bolts
ARP Crank Bolt
BTR hardend pushrods
Comp custom grind cam - 227/236 - 614/621 @ 111lsa 108icl
Comp cams rocker trunion upgrade
LS7 Lifters
PAC 1211X valve springs
LH8 oil pan/pickup tube
GM high volume oil pump
LS2 timing chain
BRP oil pump girdle
Corvette C5 accessories polished
polished valve covers
chrome coil bolts
painted coil brackets (white)
painted coils (orange)
MSD 8.5mm wires (gray color)
NGK plugs
BRP LSx motor mounts
polished timing cover

TRANSMISSION
Supierior shift kit
corvette 2nd apply servo
sonnax billet 4th apply servo
billet forward accumulator
1-2 accumulator
3-4 accumulator
oversized .490" boost pressure valve kit
updated valve body spacer plate
Alto red wide 2/4 band w/ reinforced anchor
New reverse drum
Billet input drum collar
Billet forward piston
Borg Warner HD (green) 3/4 clutches
Kolene coated 3/4 steels
Circle D 278mm 3200 stall speed converter
Trans cooler w/ custom lines

COOLING SYSTEM
Entropy LSx Aluminum Radiator w/ fans
160' thermostat
Polished LS2 waterpump

FUEL SYSTEM
FIC LS Series 42lbs Injectors
Aeromotive Platinum Polished Billet Fuel Rails
Aeromotive X1 Billet Fuel Regulator
Aeromotive Stealth EFI 1st gen tank
Aeromotive Fittings
Aeromotive Fuel PSI Gauge
Aeromotive Black Filter 10 Micron
Fuel Lines Hardlined

EXHAUST
BRP 1 3/4 stainless coated LSx headers
custom stainless dual (still researching)

INTERIOR
Remove entire old interior and paint/refresh
Cut out and weld in new trans tunnel panel
Eliminate any woodgrain
TMI seat cushions and covers (black w/white houndstooth)
Modified 1st Gen Console with 4th Gen Shifter
Factory GM tilt steering column w/ billet levers from GMTILT.com
Black carpet
Black door panels and other misc panels
New glass all the way around
American Autowire
Dakota Digital VHX Gauges

EXTERIOR
re-paint:
White w/ hugger orange stripes
chrome rear bumper
billet tailights
DSE RS electric hideaway headlights and grill

SUSPENSION/STEERING
CPP Stage III Pro Touring Kit:
Tubular Upper/Lower Control Arms
QA1 Coil Springs
QA1 Adjustable Front and Rear Shocks
Drop Leaf Springs
Cal Trac Bars
Uni Steer Rack & Pinion

BRAKES
CPP Stage III Pro Touring Kit:
Zinc Coated Drilled/Slotted Rotors
Calipers
CPP Polished Master Cylinder
Hyratech 1st Gen Hydroboost - Polished
New Preformed Stainless Brake Lines Front to Rear

DIFFERENTIAL/DRIVELINE
Clean and paint 8.5" 10 bolt, inspect Richmond ring/pinion, verify 3:73 ratio
T/A rear diff cover and bearing cap studs
Custom driveshaft

again, this is gonna change as the build goes on....

Paint the block to, will look awesome with all the other details your doing

Me repositioning the LS1 on the stand. Didnt like how I had it the first time

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Starting the disassembly

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And as it sits currently

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plan is to get the core support off and set all wiring back.Then power wash the sub frame. Then start in on the interior removing it to get a better game plan

I have the LH8 oil pan, BRP engine mounts, BRP trans x member, and all the C5 accessories. Pics of all this to come with more detail....

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Originally Posted by bmf5150 (Post 16909456)

Paint the block to, will look awesome with all the other details your doing

Yes sir, it will be painted trust me. What I have posted is the meat and potatoes of the build so far. The details will come as it goes.

Stand by...

Thats an awesome looking ride. Ill be watching this thread!

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Originally Posted by 1989GTA (Post 16909422)

Sorry but a lot of times if you post to many pics it wont let you post a post/thread. So I tried to split it up and you caught me in the middle!

Thanks and you have you're answer int he posts after. Stand by for more details!

Very nice! You have an excellent base to work from! Kudos for keeping it in the family! I am subscribing to this thread.

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Originally Posted by Rocketrod (Post 16909535)

Very nice! You have an excellent base to work from! Kudos for keeping it in the family! I am subscribing to this thread.

Thanks Rod. Like I said you're build has been an inspiration and learning tool for me on this one. I will be leaning on you on some things!

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Originally Posted by 2BFAST (Post 16909572)

Thanks Rod. Like I said you're build has been an inspiration and learning tool for me on this one. I will be leaning on you on some things!

I'd be glad to help!

just to give ya a heads up, that oil pan is gonna hang pretty damn low...is the Ls1 oil pan already sold....?

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Originally Posted by pairof69s (Post 16909667)

just to give ya a heads up, that oil pan is gonna hang pretty damn low...is the Ls1 oil pan already sold....?

Have you ran this pan before? Yes the pan is already gone as it needs modified to clear the crossmember. I compared to two and didnt see much difference?

i've been researching pans as I'm doing a LQ9 into a 69, from what i've seen it hangs about 2in below the crossmember on these first gens, might not be a problem if the car isn't going to be lowered. I see a few guys running the f-body pan with the 1in set back plates and it seems to clear alright, this is the route i'm going to take....anyways keep up the steady work.

The BRP mounts are taller than most....they are designed to work with the LH8 pan in first gen F-bodies. The 98-02 F-body LS1 pan is the one to use if the engine will sit low in the chassis. It can be used without mods, but the engine has to set back very close to the firewall.

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Originally Posted by WR450SM (Post 16910614)

Thanks for clearing that up. I also did my research on the whole oil pan / engine mounts / headers thing as I read they all have to be designed together or else fitment issues arise. I seen BRP had a "kit" that was reasonable and had good reviews so I went with it. I will be testing it all out here soon.

Pairof69's, thanks for the discussion. This will help others out as well im sure

Keep them pics coming nice build

Great project, I will be watching to !!!

I have the brp setup and I am going to be pulling the motor some time down the road to replace the pan. Look at the holley pan for that type of mount. Nice thing is you can keep the stock compressor location.