DIY Harness,need wiring instructions.
#101
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Thanks BP. It looks like the MP 150 crimper I have (Waytek #509, Delphi 12155975) is working okay for the GT 150 wire crimp, but the MP 150 seal cavity is too big for the seal. Given the less critical nature of the seal crimp, I may just carefully fudge it a bit with some pliers or even some ordinary household wiring crimpers - I probaby have something with a round cavity that would work.
Just be sure it crimps the seal tight enough that it doesnt pull out when you try and insert it into the connector.
If you are using the Gt150 3.5mm connectors the seal crimp actually needs to be an oval instead of round. As you stated in your PM if you need something crimped just let me know. As long as its not a whole bunch and you provide the materials I will crimp them for free just take care of the return shipping.
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#102
so I guess the harness didnt get done? I am feeling my way through a harness n would like to see what wires went into the fuse block n how. The relays? I am wonderining if the rubbing splice would work with all the pink wires n a single fuse?
#103
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If you take all the oranges and connect to 12v+bat
all the pinks connect to 12v+ign
ground it properly, disable VATS, Supply fuel, it will run.
Not fancy by any means, but it will work.
Heres how I did my first one;
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/lt...ll-engine.html
all the pinks connect to 12v+ign
ground it properly, disable VATS, Supply fuel, it will run.
Not fancy by any means, but it will work.
Heres how I did my first one;
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/lt...ll-engine.html
#104
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You can't argue with the "experts", Bill. They do this for a living too.?!?!?!
Fortunately I'd seen your work and know how much goes into it. I couldn't be happier with my harness.
BTW, to the guy that hung anchors by a butt connector, whoopie, I have mil-spec 550 cord too, but would you trust a single strand to hold your engine? Maybe to prove a point that it can hold it, but not for very long.
Fortunately I'd seen your work and know how much goes into it. I couldn't be happier with my harness.
BTW, to the guy that hung anchors by a butt connector, whoopie, I have mil-spec 550 cord too, but would you trust a single strand to hold your engine? Maybe to prove a point that it can hold it, but not for very long.
#106
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All yes. Be sure none are dead leads heading off to somewhere not connected though. Easiest thing is to strip the harness down ( remove all the wrap/tape etc. ) and remove the pins right at the PCM you know your not going to use. Super easy to remove you pull the red or blue cap off and with your fingers you can gently pry up the little plastic tab ( careful their weak ) and pull the pin and lead out. I do this to every harness now it only takes about 30 mins with the pin out chart ( they're in the sticky ). I pull out stuff like rear O2's, evap etc.
Im not saying it the best way to go by ganging them together but it will work. I run a new relay and fuse per specs on mine according to the wiring diagram i get printed from Alldata at a friends shop or on one of the boards. Its all about how much time you want to invest, its not very difficult, just go one pin or one sensor at a time.
Im not saying it the best way to go by ganging them together but it will work. I run a new relay and fuse per specs on mine according to the wiring diagram i get printed from Alldata at a friends shop or on one of the boards. Its all about how much time you want to invest, its not very difficult, just go one pin or one sensor at a time.
#107
I can see how easy that would be.
I am really trying to find out if all the pink wires on a running splice is too much for one fuse. I see some guys do a fuse for coils, injectors, alt, o2's, ECU, fans, trans, almost everything gets a fuse.
I see the swap harnesses have 4 fuses, & two relays.
I am where I havent wired in the fuse block & have a 4 fuse block.
I also have 4 40amp relays. a relay for Main/fuel pump/fan1/fan2..
I know a wire from fuel pump relay control, fan 1 relay control, fan 2 relay control, and the main is the power to all?
this is the pic I am going with but trying to add two relays & figure out what he broke up the three fuses to do?
I am really trying to find out if all the pink wires on a running splice is too much for one fuse. I see some guys do a fuse for coils, injectors, alt, o2's, ECU, fans, trans, almost everything gets a fuse.
I see the swap harnesses have 4 fuses, & two relays.
I am where I havent wired in the fuse block & have a 4 fuse block.
I also have 4 40amp relays. a relay for Main/fuel pump/fan1/fan2..
I know a wire from fuel pump relay control, fan 1 relay control, fan 2 relay control, and the main is the power to all?
this is the pic I am going with but trying to add two relays & figure out what he broke up the three fuses to do?
#108
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Id run a single 40 or 50 amp for the feed and one 15 or 20 for the fuel pump, a 20 for the orange, a 20 for the pinks. Should work, but again its not ideal id run a single fuse per hot lead on anything I want to last LOL. In the diagrams there are some already ganged together in most applications like O2's etc. Inj banks usually have one fuse for every four. Relays for Fuel pump, cooling fans, and ign.
#109
So i figure wire it like this
40amp relay for main with 30amp fuse?
40amp relay for fuel pump off main feed
30amp fuse- Driver coils & injectors
30amp fuse- Pass coils & injectors
30amp fuse- O2 senors
40 amp relay for fan1 of main feed
40 amp relay for fan2 of main feed
sound okay? will i have reason to catch fire?
40amp relay for main with 30amp fuse?
40amp relay for fuel pump off main feed
30amp fuse- Driver coils & injectors
30amp fuse- Pass coils & injectors
30amp fuse- O2 senors
40 amp relay for fan1 of main feed
40 amp relay for fan2 of main feed
sound okay? will i have reason to catch fire?
Last edited by zukboi2004; 04-30-2013 at 08:00 PM. Reason: typo
#110
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Relays should be okay but fuses too big. For instance on my last swap ( L92 ) im running 50amp main feed fuse from bat.
inj bank 1 15amp
inj bank 2 15amp
maf 15amp
cooling fan ( single fan ) 15amp
PCM/Ign 15amp
Fuel pump 20 amp
O2's 10 amp
Throttle control 15amp
Anything else is ganged in there somewhere I just cant recall right now i spun this up almost 2yrs back now and this is the notes i have.
inj bank 1 15amp
inj bank 2 15amp
maf 15amp
cooling fan ( single fan ) 15amp
PCM/Ign 15amp
Fuel pump 20 amp
O2's 10 amp
Throttle control 15amp
Anything else is ganged in there somewhere I just cant recall right now i spun this up almost 2yrs back now and this is the notes i have.
#111
For anyone out there looking for supplies to build your harness or do any kind of harness repair work etc. I would stay clear from Delcity.net
My first few orders from them were no problem, ordered and received package a week later or less. Just recently I placed a order for 100 connectors. Almost 2 months went by and no package. Called multiple times and every time they gave some BS date on when they would receive them and ship out. Besides that my other nit pick would be that their tracking service is terrible. They have a separate page where you enter your order number to track the order and it never works. I don't see why they cant just provide the UPS tracking# via email.
Went with Waytek and order was shipped out the same day I placed the order, and I placed the order pretty late in the day too.. +1 for Waytek I will be ordering from them again.
#113
So with what u said in mind, I will ask if this is more safe:
inj bank 1 & coils 15amp?
inj bank 2 & coils 15amp?
maf- I am not running
cooling fan ( single fan ) 15amp fuse-(I am running two on there own 40 amp relays)
PCM/Ign 15amp
Fuel pump- 20 amp fuse instead of 40 amp relay? i can get a smaller relay
O2's 10 amp
Throttle control- Cable drivin- no fuse needed?
inj bank 1 & coils 15amp?
inj bank 2 & coils 15amp?
maf- I am not running
cooling fan ( single fan ) 15amp fuse-(I am running two on there own 40 amp relays)
PCM/Ign 15amp
Fuel pump- 20 amp fuse instead of 40 amp relay? i can get a smaller relay
O2's 10 amp
Throttle control- Cable drivin- no fuse needed?
#114
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You need a fuel pump relay, the fuse is for the hot side. Fans double it up fuse/relay or a bigger single fuse for both relays. otherwise that all looks okay but you should confirm load ratings for your pinouts and spread sheet from somewhere like LS2swap dot gone? Wtf dang.... that was a handy site
Check alldata for load ratings if in doubt. The sticky here might have the info too Im not sure i havent looked in there for some time now
Check alldata for load ratings if in doubt. The sticky here might have the info too Im not sure i havent looked in there for some time now
#119
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I started this thread to bundle the 411 together n stop hijacking. Plus I can post exactly what I am dealing with in my own thread. Thanks for the info
I started this thread to bundle the 411 together n stop hijacking. Plus I can post exactly what I am dealing with in my own thread. Thanks for the info