69 Camaro G8/6L80e Swap *Build Thread*
03-27-2014, 01:07 AM
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I had to call spectra to get the fuel pump part number before I ordered the tank from Rockauto. I was surprised to find out that they were running an AC Delco fuel pump with their kit. I figured they'd be running some no name cheap pump. The part numbers for the fuel tank and extra fuel pump should be on page 1 of this build.
03-27-2014, 11:29 AM
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After a couple of calls and emails to Spectra, I was able to talk to the tech who said that the pump they include in the kit, is a foreign pump, I believe the implication is that it is made in China, though it is modeled after the EP381. I purchased the tank with their pump and an additional AC Delco EP381, which is going to go in the tank and the one from the kit will be a back up pump.
Not much progress on the car as of late. The guy doing it for us has told me he ran the tranny cooler lines/hoses are hooked up to the radiator, mounted the ecm, wired the alternator, mounted the speartech 4 fuse block/relays for the fans and fuel pump. He has also done some other wiring in the engine compartment and mounted the starter. No pics from him of the progress though
I live 8 hours away so I cant just drop by unfortunately...
04-23-2014, 12:07 AM
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So the supply line from the tank is a 5/8-18 SAE 45* flare. I don't think anyone makes that to a -6 AN. I don't know if you've gotten to the tank install yet or not, but how are you guys solving for that? I'm thinking I'm going to have to do a weld/solder on.
04-30-2014, 08:27 PM
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We almost got the tank in this weekend. The guy doing the swap has a plan to use AN fittings and flexible fuel line so I think all the fittings are available but we havent ordered them yet. I will keep you posted when we do, sorry I dont have a better answer right now..
04-30-2014, 08:42 PM
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Got to go back home this past weekend, made some progress on the car. As I'm sure you all know everything takes 3 times longer than you think it will.
Got the intake worked out, k&n kit for a 2010 Camaro, cut a section out for the inline style MAF. Had to buy a 4" coupler to attach the filter side of the MAF to the intake, got it off ebay, spectra brand $20.
Alternator clearance once all wired up
175 amp in line fuse pulled from a 96-04 s10 blazer at u-pull-it, mounted to the inner fender well near the battery
ECM, fuel pump and relays for the fans along with the speartech provided fuse panel mounted up behind the battery
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Got the intake worked out, k&n kit for a 2010 Camaro, cut a section out for the inline style MAF. Had to buy a 4" coupler to attach the filter side of the MAF to the intake, got it off ebay, spectra brand $20.
Alternator clearance once all wired up
175 amp in line fuse pulled from a 96-04 s10 blazer at u-pull-it, mounted to the inner fender well near the battery
ECM, fuel pump and relays for the fans along with the speartech provided fuse panel mounted up behind the battery
Side shot
04-30-2014, 09:02 PM
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Swap looks like its coming along. If you are looking to clean up the engine bay you dont have to run the wires to the alt if you get a self exciting regulator installed which is about 40 bucks. All that will going to the alt will be the power and neg wire...
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04-30-2014, 09:09 PM
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efans all wired up
Soldering the gas pedal plug, had to cut the wires going to it to get it through the firewall, only way we figured out to do it without making a huge freakin hole
04-30-2014, 09:11 PM
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We almost got the tank in this weekend. The guy doing the swap has a plan to use AN fittings and flexible fuel line so I think all the fittings are available but we havent ordered them yet. I will keep you posted when we do, sorry I dont have a better answer right now..
XRP fittings through ANplumbing.com
I used your CAI as inspiration for mine. I ended up with Spectre pipes and couplers and used the factory MAF tube as the Spectre one didn't fit. Got the Spectra air filter as well. Looks exactly like one of the name brand ones too, but only a hell of a lot cheaper. I think I'm into the CAI for a total of $70 w/o the Spectre MAF adapter.
04-30-2014, 09:16 PM
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Cool, I do remember him planning on using a compression fitting on the hard line along the frame rail (engine supply) so that an AN fitting could be attached to it. So your saying your doing compression fitting on the tank side as well? Should work fine I would think
04-30-2014, 09:26 PM
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Spectra factory replacement fuel tank PN: GM32BFI, set up for fuel injection. Going to swap out the fuel pump it came with with the replacement ac delco PN: EP381 unit. We've heard the fuel pump that comes with the spectra tank is weak and tends to fail prematurely
out
close up, definitely not an ac delco unit
no way to get the fuel line off so it had to be cut
pick up filter pulls off from the bottom
swapping out the bottom rubber with the one with the ac delco unit
ac delco ep 381 installed, new hose and clips included, more pics to follow tomorrow..
04-30-2014, 10:50 PM
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I had the same issue, but I de-pinned the connector, took about 3 minutes slipped the wires through a 1/4 inch hole and re-pinned the connector. Electrical components are like fluid components the least amount of connections and solder joints the less chance of chasing leaks or electrical gremlins down the road. Don't kick yourself too hard for chopping up and soldering on that nice Speartech harness.
05-01-2014, 09:51 PM
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I had the same issue, but I de-pinned the connector, took about 3 minutes slipped the wires through a 1/4 inch hole and re-pinned the connector. Electrical components are like fluid components the least amount of connections and solder joints the less chance of chasing leaks or electrical gremlins down the road. Don't kick yourself too hard for chopping up and soldering on that nice Speartech harness.
05-02-2014, 06:44 AM
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Hey if you swapping over a G8 motor - checkout the G8 board - there are guys dropping LSA blowers on there cars for around 3-4k and getting stupid good numbers!
05-03-2014, 04:47 AM
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Thanks for the kind comments, its been a project for sure. Let me see what other pics I can find of the car. It was restored so long ago, I'll round up some for ya. The old motor/tranny combo was good. It had been in the car 10+ years even though we hadn't driven it a ton. Had oil leaks, needed new headers, needed a water pump, alternator wasnt charging like it should and we had never hooked the A/C up (Needed a new compressor). We priced a serpintine belt set up to take care of all of this and knew we would one day also want to do fuel injection. Both of those were close to the cost of a complete take out motor so we decided to go that route instead. Just wanted some new technology and better mpg's to boot.
I agree on the gear swap, were gonna see how it does. Shoulda planned a little better because we just put the 3.73's in when the 700r4 went in 6 or 7 years ago... It ought to do some nice burn outs though
Were keeping DOD at this point, I will reasearch it though. Maybe something to consider deleting down the road. Thanks for the heads up, I hadnt heard that..
Thanks for the AlenGroveComponents link, I'll check it out.
Thanks man, hope we can keep it as planned!
I agree on the gear swap, were gonna see how it does. Shoulda planned a little better because we just put the 3.73's in when the 700r4 went in 6 or 7 years ago... It ought to do some nice burn outs though
Were keeping DOD at this point, I will reasearch it though. Maybe something to consider deleting down the road. Thanks for the heads up, I hadnt heard that..
Thanks for the AlenGroveComponents link, I'll check it out.
Thanks man, hope we can keep it as planned!
could end up starving oil pump
doing same swap but with a complete DOD delete
there are a lot of threads out there about DOD delete
go to LS2 forums for a start
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05-03-2014, 10:09 AM
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The stock L76 oil pump is a high volume pump. One of the reasons the stock oil pan is so large. A lot of oil is in circulation for DOD engines and may not return to the sump in a timely fashion . With that smaller pan not enough oil in reserve to maintain a sufficient volume for pump pick up.
the person on the LS2 forum is HSV-GTS-300
He has an excellent thread on L76 engine and is invaluable for swaps
the person on the LS2 forum is HSV-GTS-300
He has an excellent thread on L76 engine and is invaluable for swaps
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05-04-2014, 08:11 AM
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The stock L76 oil pump is a high volume pump. One of the reasons the stock oil pan is so large. A lot of oil is in circulation for DOD engines and may not return to the sump in a timely fashion . With that smaller pan not enough oil in reserve to maintain a sufficient volume for pump pick up.
the person on the LS2 forum is HSV-GTS-300
He has an excellent thread on L76 engine and is invaluable for swaps
the person on the LS2 forum is HSV-GTS-300
He has an excellent thread on L76 engine and is invaluable for swaps
05-04-2014, 11:34 AM
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Back to the fuel tank for a moment. Is there anything in the way of baffles around the fuel pickup? Just wondering about going around corners and getting fuel starvation with a low tank.
05-04-2014, 12:11 PM
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I have the same tank in my Firebird. According to Spectra, they have updated the fuel bowl to prevent the starvation problem that was occurring when the fuel level in the tank was low. They didn't give specifics, but in my emails with them, they have been pretty responsive. That being said, it did take a little probing with their tech to finally figure out that the fuel pump that was included was basically a Chinese knock-off of the Delco pump. I purchased the Delco unit and had it swapped in. The one that came with it will be a back up pump.
