ac wiring / pcm question. Pin 43
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ac wiring / pcm question. Pin 43
Per the wiriing diagram, my pin 43 ground wasn't giving out a signal to cycle the compressor on. I wired up a switch really fast for testing purposes to give the a/c clutch plug 12v & boom the compressor kicked on worked instantly and blew nice & cold.
I know this isn't the proper way because then the compressor wouldn't cycle on/off when the high/low pressure isn't adequate but again, it was for testing purposes.
I get power at pin 17 & I was also getting power at the pressure sensor & a ground signal.
My question is, is there anything I can do to test to see if I have something wrong with my PCM @ pin 43? I obviously want my a/c to be 100% functional & correct.
I know this isn't the proper way because then the compressor wouldn't cycle on/off when the high/low pressure isn't adequate but again, it was for testing purposes.
I get power at pin 17 & I was also getting power at the pressure sensor & a ground signal.
My question is, is there anything I can do to test to see if I have something wrong with my PCM @ pin 43? I obviously want my a/c to be 100% functional & correct.
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The wiring diagram I posted below doesn't show the pressure sensor wiring, its just to show how to wire up the relays to send a 12v signal instead of the Nissan's stock ground signals.
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You can use the a/c on/off button in HPTuners scanner. It will ignore sensor and request inputs.
Your compressor relay looks good.
So long as your pin 14 is +12 and 13 is GND you should be good. PCM needs 12+ input for the AC request at pin 17.
If all that checks out then the pressure sensor would be your last possibility beside PCM programming.
Your compressor relay looks good.
So long as your pin 14 is +12 and 13 is GND you should be good. PCM needs 12+ input for the AC request at pin 17.
If all that checks out then the pressure sensor would be your last possibility beside PCM programming.
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You failed to mention the type of compressor you are using. If you are running a 411 with the factory variable compressor you need to wire it just like the Camaro with a pressure sensor not switches. Variable compressors are not ment to cycle on and off like a fixed compressor does. If you are using a fixed compressor you need to wire it and program it like a Van or truck with a fixed compressor which uses pressure switches to turn the compressor on or off. There are programming parameters that allow you to change the compressor type. Wiring is different for each type. Regardless of the compressor type as long as your car came with a 134 type system the rest stays the same.
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Ugh just updated my HPT version last week and it won`t let me redo my config file without connecting to a vehicle so I can`t give you a screenshot.
Anyway, Exidous beat me to it. Try commanding the A/C on with the scanner. If it does not enable then there might be a pcm problem. If it does then use the HPT scanner to check the A/C pressure sensor voltage and IIRC you can also use it to see if the A/C request is active. That should help narrow down where the problem is.
Anyway, Exidous beat me to it. Try commanding the A/C on with the scanner. If it does not enable then there might be a pcm problem. If it does then use the HPT scanner to check the A/C pressure sensor voltage and IIRC you can also use it to see if the A/C request is active. That should help narrow down where the problem is.
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You failed to mention the type of compressor you are using. If you are running a 411 with the factory variable compressor you need to wire it just like the Camaro with a pressure sensor not switches. Variable compressors are not ment to cycle on and off like a fixed compressor does. If you are using a fixed compressor you need to wire it and program it like a Van or truck with a fixed compressor which uses pressure switches to turn the compressor on or off. There are programming parameters that allow you to change the compressor type. Wiring is different for each type. Regardless of the compressor type as long as your car came with a 134 type system the rest stays the same.
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I know this isn't the proper way because then the compressor wouldn't cycle on/off when the high/low pressure isn't adequate but again, it was for testing purposes.
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ok guys i have a question for ya im doing a swap lm7 into a 87 iroc im using the 5.3 4l60 harness and pcm from the same truck i plan on having it flashed or whatever but im also thinking about just getting the hp tuner kit for 500 and flash it myself if thats possible i know u can do alot of tuning on those things but i see there is a credit system? i dont know what for but curious if anyone has used these to disable the vats and get it going any suggestions i would appreciate thanks in advance
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Your compressor is a variable compressor. It is not designed to turn on and off like a fixed compressor. it uses a sensor to read the pressure hence it is called a sensor. It is not a switch to turn it on and off like a AC system with a fixed compressor. Your AC request should turn the compressor on. The only time it will ever turn off with the AC request is if the pressure is really out of wack. If that is the case you have other problems like to much 134 in your system. Wire it like the 02 Camaro. Your issue is you need to make your control panel give a 12 AC request. Once that is done the rest is all 02 Camaro wiring.
thanks for the 02 wiring diagram.
I looked over the wiring diagrams I have & used & also looked at the one you provided & I believe that is exactly how I have my wiring done.
I've got 12v from the climate control to pin 17 (a/c request) on the PCM (via a relay).
I've got 12v (via a relay) for pin 18 (a/c status & clutch engage)
Pin 43 (clutch relay control) from PCM to above mentioned relay which supplies the clutch (pin 18) w/ the 12v
My issue is that I am not getting any kind of signal from Pin 43 to tell the compressor to kick on when I turn the climate control switch ON.
Even with the variable compressor pin 43 should be sending a signal out to atleast kick the compressor on, no? I understand that since I have a variable compressor it wont cycle on/off regularly like a fixed compressor.
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Where did you get your PCM? Who programmed it? If you paid somebody to do this then it is more than likely it was done incorrectly. PM me if you need this done. I can help set you up properly if needed.
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I flashed my PCM, deleted VATS, etc but I just was asking just to make sure. It shouldnt have changed but I wanted to just make sure everything was in order.
I flashed my PCM, deleted VATS, etc but I just was asking just to make sure. It shouldnt have changed but I wanted to just make sure everything was in order.
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ok guys i have a question for ya im doing a swap lm7 into a 87 iroc im using the 5.3 4l60 harness and pcm from the same truck i plan on having it flashed or whatever but im also thinking about just getting the hp tuner kit for 500 and flash it myself if thats possible i know u can do alot of tuning on those things but i see there is a credit system? i dont know what for but curious if anyone has used these to disable the vats and get it going any suggestions i would appreciate thanks in advance
The credit system works as such: 1 credit = $50. To gain access to change anything on a pcm = 2 credits; even if you don't touch anything but the vats, it's still $100. But the hptuners usually comes with something like 8 credits, so it won't cost you anything extra until you get into the heavy changes of the pcm, which it doesn't sound like you are doing.
Again, I'd check into the tuning side of this forum for further help. Or hptuners has a forum of their own with a mountain of information also.