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Jucin Apr 9, 2014 09:04 PM

Let's talk using a Stock Harness. Who has all done it. Any issues or Tips?
 
Title says it ..... Doing a 5.3 swap into a Rat Rod and have a Fbody Harness and the Truck Harness, should I just use one of those? Don't care about the look.

fieroguru Apr 9, 2014 09:23 PM

It really depends your comfort level with reworking the harness or willingness to pay for a harness that you can just install.

I did it the hard way, but I had a very specific look I wanted from the swap/harness... I started with this:
https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...4/IMG_7975.jpg

Did this to it:
https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...4/IMG_7976.jpg

Finished swap:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/IMG_0544.jpg

CutLS Apr 9, 2014 09:27 PM

I hooked it up, and put tape on the connectors labeling them. Layed the harness on the ground and removed the conduit. Removed all wires I didn't need. This is the time to decide where you want your harness to run, so you can put new conduit on to route your connectors nice and cleanly on the engine.

Jucin Apr 9, 2014 09:35 PM

On the Fbody what is the harness that runs into the firewall on the pass side?

CutLS Apr 9, 2014 10:01 PM

It basically comes down to PCM location I believe. Trucks are mounted in the left front of the engine bay, while the FBody are inside or under the wheel liner like Corvettes.

LSx '85 C10 Apr 9, 2014 11:01 PM

I did mine for my swap and I hated every second of sorting through the spaghetti i was given, even now that my swap has been running for 7 months and the harness works its doesn't look how i wish it would've and i done have and extra harness that I could send out or redo the way i want to.

softballnrd27 Apr 10, 2014 08:00 AM

My advice is to run it how you want 1 sensor at a time. That will give you the best results. I used lt1swap.com and removed all the wires from the computer connector side after labeling them of course. It's really not that hard it just takes a really long time and multiple goes at it. In the end I ended up ordering new computer pins and wire and just clipped the sensor connectors with about 3-4" of wire and soldered them on that way I could run the length and route that I wanted to run.

bluezq8 Apr 10, 2014 09:15 AM

fieroguru, that looks fantastic! What did you use to loom the new harness, shrink wrap?

thunderstruck507 Apr 10, 2014 09:21 AM

I did mine from a fbody harness. If you don't care about stripping the unused wires it can be super easy. Just locate the 3 body harness plugs and follow the wiring tutorials in the sticky.

Basically: switched power to pink, constant battery power to orange, ground to black, purple wire to starter. Fuse and relay them accordingly for their functions and the car will run.

Aside from that it's just a matter of finding the tach signal wire for gauges and the one for the OBDII port.

I unpinned the unused wires from the PCM connector but left them in the harness.

fieroguru Apr 10, 2014 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by bluezq8 (Post 18141394)
fieroguru, that looks fantastic! What did you use to loom the new harness, shrink wrap?

Thanks! It took quite a bit of time, but I couldn't be happier with the end result.

Yes, heat shrink tube on the top side and most shorter legs of the harness. I like heat shrink because it makes the harness as thin as possible while still providing for some abrasion resistance. I did use normal split loom where it goes over the bellhousing, to the ecm and into the chassis. The split loom made it easy for the coil wires to join the main harness. Here is where I started on the injector harness:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/IMG_7986.jpg

Then I wire tied them to the backside of each fuel rail to hide the injector connector and harness as much as possible.

ryanleiker Apr 10, 2014 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by fieroguru (Post 18140667)
It really depends your comfort level with reworking the harness or willingness to pay for a harness that you can just install.

I did it the hard way, but I had a very specific look I wanted from the swap/harness... I started with this:
https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...4/IMG_7975.jpg

Did this to it:
https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...4/IMG_7976.jpg

Finished swap:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/IMG_0544.jpg

What is that green belt and tensioner for on the back of the motor(right side of picture)?

GREAT WHITE SS Apr 10, 2014 04:58 PM

looks to be the "front" of the engine or accessory drive side. looks like the intake is backwards.

nichoms Apr 10, 2014 05:22 PM

I redid mine with an Fbody harness. Just make sure its not a 1998, those are different.

It is not a fun thing to do if your not a big electrical guy, but you can do it if you take your time and label everything.

A couple things that I had to learn the hard way:

1. If your going to splice the wires when shortening/lengthening then stagger your splices. If a sensor has 4 wires and you splice them all at the same location then you have a bulky section that doesn't look as good and if you have any sharp spots in the splice then they can poke through your heatshrink and short the wires.
Took me a while to figure out why my engine wouldn't run anymore, crank sensor wires shorted because of the above situation.

2. Use Marine grade heatshrink. I used the normal heatshrink but the marine stuff is adhesive lined so when it shrinks it also melts the adhesive so it is water tight.

If I was to do it again I would just get tiny bare crimp connectors instead of soldering.

Good luck!

BTW fieroguru that looks really good!

ryanleiker Apr 10, 2014 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by GREAT WHITE SS (Post 18142208)
looks to be the "front" of the engine or accessory drive side. looks like the intake is backwards.

That almost makes too much sense.

fieroguru Apr 10, 2014 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by ryanleiker (Post 18142005)
What is that green belt and tensioner for on the back of the motor(right side of picture)?

Yes, the intake is backwards from the RWD engines, but it is the stock orientation for the transverse LS4 (but that is an LS2 intake, not the LS4 one).

Jucin Apr 10, 2014 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by thunderstruck507 (Post 18141405)
I did mine from a fbody harness. If you don't care about stripping the unused wires it can be super easy. Just locate the 3 body harness plugs and follow the wiring tutorials in the sticky.

Basically: switched power to pink, constant battery power to orange, ground to black, purple wire to starter. Fuse and relay them accordingly for their functions and the car will run.

Aside from that it's just a matter of finding the tach signal wire for gauges and the one for the OBDII port.

I unpinned the unused wires from the PCM connector but left them in the harness.

Which wire turtorials?

fire67bird Apr 10, 2014 09:48 PM

Doing your own harness will teach you a lot about the engine and how it operates if you do not have experience with fuel injection.

I think the hardest part for me was adding the fuse box.

ls1nova71 Apr 11, 2014 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by fieroguru (Post 18142575)
Yes, the intake is backwards from the RWD engines, but it is the stock orientation for the transverse LS4 (but that is an LS2 intake, not the LS4 one).

So is the belt really green? BTW, I've seen you post that pic before, and every time I see it I'm impressed!

ls1nova71 Apr 11, 2014 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Jucin (Post 18142696)
Which wire turtorials?

Can't believe no one has mentioned this..... http://lt1swap.com/2000harness.htm

This should get you going, as long as you have some kind of understanding of how electrical systems work, and can use a soldering iron.

fieroguru Apr 11, 2014 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by ls1nova71 (Post 18143528)
So is the belt really green? BTW, I've seen you post that pic before, and every time I see it I'm impressed!

Thanks!

Yeah, the belt was green. It was a Heavy Duty NAPA one, but now I run a black gatorback belt.


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