Know your enemy..Viper stock 1/4 mile list
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Know your enemy..Viper stock 1/4 mile list
Been working on this for over a month now...
hopefully over time more of us will post some bone stock times to add to this list...For those who have posted their stock times. i sincerely thank you for helping this list become an reality.
*THIS LIST IS FOR 100% BONE STOCK REGULAR STREET TIRE VIPERS*
GEN 1
Rich detert...1994RT10...12.3...111mph
Jcarter.......1994RT10...12.6...116mph
Bill..........1994RT10...12.9...109mph
MrJ...........1992RT10...13.4...106mph
GEN 2
Mike..........1999ACR....11.3...122mph
EvanSmith.....2001RT10...11.7...120mph
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...05/ai_n9239712
Z06vrsViper...2001RT10...11.7...119mph
http://www.learntodragrace.com/comparison.htm
JimNordgren...1996GTS....11.7...119mph
SilverViper...****GTS....11.8...120mph
Jeffhelms.....2000ACR....11.8...119mph
KeithBraitly..1996GTS....11.8...118mph
KevinMcdonald.2001RT10...11.8...117mph
JeffTyler.....1996GTS....11.9...121mph
SocalRebel....2000RT10...12.0...120mph
MrMe..........2000RT10...12.0...116mph
JamieParker...1996GTS....12.1...120mph
Jcarter.......1999GTS....12.2...120mph
RickD.........2000GTS....12.3...121mph
HowardGoldman.2001GTS....12.3...118mph
JamesNordgren.1996GTS....12.4...117mph
BradBethurem..2000GTS....12.6...117mph
GEN 3
JohnMyrick....2003Vert...11.8...122mph
UtahViper.....2003Vert...11.8...119mph
RickMay.......2004Vert...11.9...123mph
TomDickson....2004Vert...12.0...118mph
MrJ...........2003Vert...12.2...120mph
RickMartino...2003Vert...12.1...118mph
IvanHo........2003Vert...12.2...119mph
LET THE BENCH RACING BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hopefully over time more of us will post some bone stock times to add to this list...For those who have posted their stock times. i sincerely thank you for helping this list become an reality.
*THIS LIST IS FOR 100% BONE STOCK REGULAR STREET TIRE VIPERS*
GEN 1
Rich detert...1994RT10...12.3...111mph
Jcarter.......1994RT10...12.6...116mph
Bill..........1994RT10...12.9...109mph
MrJ...........1992RT10...13.4...106mph
GEN 2
Mike..........1999ACR....11.3...122mph
EvanSmith.....2001RT10...11.7...120mph
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...05/ai_n9239712
Z06vrsViper...2001RT10...11.7...119mph
http://www.learntodragrace.com/comparison.htm
JimNordgren...1996GTS....11.7...119mph
SilverViper...****GTS....11.8...120mph
Jeffhelms.....2000ACR....11.8...119mph
KeithBraitly..1996GTS....11.8...118mph
KevinMcdonald.2001RT10...11.8...117mph
JeffTyler.....1996GTS....11.9...121mph
SocalRebel....2000RT10...12.0...120mph
MrMe..........2000RT10...12.0...116mph
JamieParker...1996GTS....12.1...120mph
Jcarter.......1999GTS....12.2...120mph
RickD.........2000GTS....12.3...121mph
HowardGoldman.2001GTS....12.3...118mph
JamesNordgren.1996GTS....12.4...117mph
BradBethurem..2000GTS....12.6...117mph
GEN 3
JohnMyrick....2003Vert...11.8...122mph
UtahViper.....2003Vert...11.8...119mph
RickMay.......2004Vert...11.9...123mph
TomDickson....2004Vert...12.0...118mph
MrJ...........2003Vert...12.2...120mph
RickMartino...2003Vert...12.1...118mph
IvanHo........2003Vert...12.2...119mph
LET THE BENCH RACING BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by Killemall; 12-24-2006 at 11:40 AM.
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ive seen maybe 4 vipers in the trenton area one crashed trying to stay with my 07 z in a turn another reved his engine at me when he was parking then came in same store i was in after a few mins. i was ready to leave so i just walked up and said " i,m done here [so was he] lets get it on" he never even looked up.as far as a winner both are pretty even with power so its gonna be decided by how hits the gas in the right gear or launchs better or shifts better. ive got 3k on my z so i wouldnt be surprised if i got wacked.i need more seat time on her but i wont shrink from trying
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I really wish it listed whether or not the time included having slicks on board.
I hate it when people post the time with car and don't bother mentioning that there 12 second Camaro or 11 second Z06 had slicks on.
It's as bad as a ricer failing to mention that his 11 second time was for the 1/8th mile....
I hate it when people post the time with car and don't bother mentioning that there 12 second Camaro or 11 second Z06 had slicks on.
It's as bad as a ricer failing to mention that his 11 second time was for the 1/8th mile....
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This List Is For Regular Stock Street Tire Only...the Guys On Slicks Are All 11.6 Or Better Bone Stock...but I Didnt Add Them To The List Cas I Consider That A Modd.so They Wernt Stock In My Eyes.
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GEN 2
Mike..........1999ACR....11.3...122mph
EvanSmith.....2001RT10...11.7...120mph
thats a decent gap in ET. is the 11.3 on a DOT tire? has he backed it up?
Im a dot tire guy... drive to the track, run 11's and drive home. hopefully next season itl be the same but with 10's
Mike..........1999ACR....11.3...122mph
EvanSmith.....2001RT10...11.7...120mph
thats a decent gap in ET. is the 11.3 on a DOT tire? has he backed it up?
Im a dot tire guy... drive to the track, run 11's and drive home. hopefully next season itl be the same but with 10's
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I've met Ivan Ho (at the Viper Owner's Invitational in St. Louis back in 2000) on that list, he's a high ranking guy in the national Viper Club, nice guy too.
I've met Evan Smith a couple times as well come to think of it LOL.
I've met Evan Smith a couple times as well come to think of it LOL.
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I was seriously looking at getting a gen3 viper but there was too many disadvantages over what I have now. 1/3 the gas mileage, 3x the price, same quickness, viper tax is worse then vette tax, but the biggest is .. its a dodge
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My 01 C5 bone stock A4 except for and STS kit pulls a stock 99 Viper by 6 lengths from 40-120...nothing to worry about...you arent starting any trouble at all.
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My 01 C5 bone stock A4 except for and STS kit pulls a stock 99 Viper by 6 lengths from 40-120...nothing to worry about...you arent starting any trouble at all.
Damm....That things fast..
I had a 2004 auto c5.....with mild head and cam set up making 378 rwhp I was only 2-3 tenths behind the stock gen 2 vipers and a tenth faster than the stock c5z06's at my local drag strip....
So I would think that with another solid 50 rwhp from a TT kit and a solid 430 rwhp I would have pulled a stock gen Viper in the 1/4 mile by a good 3 tenths....
So id guess your around 450 rwhp to pull a gen 2 viper like that?????
GOOD JOB!!!!! MY Goal was to build an NA vette that could pull a stock gen 2 viper...but i played it to safe and my stock LS6 heads and 224/224 cam set up just wasnt enough....
could just barely pull the stock C5z06's...But the two stock GTS Vipers that came to our track would always edge me out by a few tenths...
So pissed that my combo wasnt doing the job I just said screw it..If you cant beat em join em.....
I could have beat em...but another 1500$ for a cam change and tuning, plus another 1500 to upgrade my gears from 2.73's to 3.42's just so i could hit 400 rwhp and edge out the stock gen 2 vipers just didnt seam worth it any more...
especially when every time i opened a magazine their were cars coming out that put down 400 rwhp PLUS....And the C6z06 putting out 460 rwhp bone stock just really killed my dream of having a 400 rwhp NA LS1....
hell...evan my vipers 410 rwhp/465 rwt bone stock seams a little limp wristed compared to the cars coming out nowadays.....
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Damm....That things fast..
I had a 2004 auto c5.....with mild head and cam set up making 378 rwhp I was only 2-3 tenths behind the stock gen 2 vipers and a tenth faster than the stock c5z06's at my local drag strip....
So I would think that with another solid 50 rwhp from a TT kit and a solid 430 rwhp I would have pulled a stock gen Viper in the 1/4 mile by a good 3 tenths....
So id guess your around 450 rwhp to pull a gen 2 viper like that?????
GOOD JOB!!!!! MY Goal was to build an NA vette that could pull a stock gen 2 viper...but i played it to safe and my stock LS6 heads and 224/224 cam set up just wasnt enough....
could just barely pull the stock C5z06's...But the two stock GTS Vipers that came to our track would always edge me out by a few tenths...
So pissed that my combo wasnt doing the job I just said screw it..If you cant beat em join em.....
I could have beat em...but another 1500$ for a cam change and tuning, plus another 1500 to upgrade my gears from 2.73's to 3.42's just so i could hit 400 rwhp and edge out the stock gen 2 vipers just didnt seam worth it any more...
especially when every time i opened a magazine their were cars coming out that put down 400 rwhp PLUS....And the C6z06 putting out 460 rwhp bone stock just really killed my dream of having a 400 rwhp NA LS1....
hell...evan my vipers 410 rwhp/465 rwt bone stock seams a little limp wristed compared to the cars coming out nowadays.....
I had a 2004 auto c5.....with mild head and cam set up making 378 rwhp I was only 2-3 tenths behind the stock gen 2 vipers and a tenth faster than the stock c5z06's at my local drag strip....
So I would think that with another solid 50 rwhp from a TT kit and a solid 430 rwhp I would have pulled a stock gen Viper in the 1/4 mile by a good 3 tenths....
So id guess your around 450 rwhp to pull a gen 2 viper like that?????
GOOD JOB!!!!! MY Goal was to build an NA vette that could pull a stock gen 2 viper...but i played it to safe and my stock LS6 heads and 224/224 cam set up just wasnt enough....
could just barely pull the stock C5z06's...But the two stock GTS Vipers that came to our track would always edge me out by a few tenths...
So pissed that my combo wasnt doing the job I just said screw it..If you cant beat em join em.....
I could have beat em...but another 1500$ for a cam change and tuning, plus another 1500 to upgrade my gears from 2.73's to 3.42's just so i could hit 400 rwhp and edge out the stock gen 2 vipers just didnt seam worth it any more...
especially when every time i opened a magazine their were cars coming out that put down 400 rwhp PLUS....And the C6z06 putting out 460 rwhp bone stock just really killed my dream of having a 400 rwhp NA LS1....
hell...evan my vipers 410 rwhp/465 rwt bone stock seams a little limp wristed compared to the cars coming out nowadays.....
Of course, a big shot on a V-10 works well also.
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Yea but i hate juice...The only reason im spraying my viper instead of H/C or FI is cus im just sick of loosing THOUSANDS of dollars every time I sell a modded vehicle...
Yea FI I can buy the SC kit for 7 grand and then if i sell it one day take it off and sell it for 4-5 grand..but man thats still loosing a solid 2-3 grand...
So im just gonna spend 1 grand on the juice set up and then if i sell it for 600 one day...Well 400 bucks isnt soo bad.
Yea FI I can buy the SC kit for 7 grand and then if i sell it one day take it off and sell it for 4-5 grand..but man thats still loosing a solid 2-3 grand...
So im just gonna spend 1 grand on the juice set up and then if i sell it for 600 one day...Well 400 bucks isnt soo bad.
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Damm....That things fast..
I had a 2004 auto c5.....with mild head and cam set up making 378 rwhp I was only 2-3 tenths behind the stock gen 2 vipers and a tenth faster than the stock c5z06's at my local drag strip....
So I would think that with another solid 50 rwhp from a TT kit and a solid 430 rwhp I would have pulled a stock gen Viper in the 1/4 mile by a good 3 tenths....
So id guess your around 450 rwhp to pull a gen 2 viper like that?????
GOOD JOB!!!!! MY Goal was to build an NA vette that could pull a stock gen 2 viper...but i played it to safe and my stock LS6 heads and 224/224 cam set up just wasnt enough....
could just barely pull the stock C5z06's...But the two stock GTS Vipers that came to our track would always edge me out by a few tenths...
So pissed that my combo wasnt doing the job I just said screw it..If you cant beat em join em.....
I could have beat em...but another 1500$ for a cam change and tuning, plus another 1500 to upgrade my gears from 2.73's to 3.42's just so i could hit 400 rwhp and edge out the stock gen 2 vipers just didnt seam worth it any more...
especially when every time i opened a magazine their were cars coming out that put down 400 rwhp PLUS....And the C6z06 putting out 460 rwhp bone stock just really killed my dream of having a 400 rwhp NA LS1....
hell...evan my vipers 410 rwhp/465 rwt bone stock seams a little limp wristed compared to the cars coming out nowadays.....
I had a 2004 auto c5.....with mild head and cam set up making 378 rwhp I was only 2-3 tenths behind the stock gen 2 vipers and a tenth faster than the stock c5z06's at my local drag strip....
So I would think that with another solid 50 rwhp from a TT kit and a solid 430 rwhp I would have pulled a stock gen Viper in the 1/4 mile by a good 3 tenths....
So id guess your around 450 rwhp to pull a gen 2 viper like that?????
GOOD JOB!!!!! MY Goal was to build an NA vette that could pull a stock gen 2 viper...but i played it to safe and my stock LS6 heads and 224/224 cam set up just wasnt enough....
could just barely pull the stock C5z06's...But the two stock GTS Vipers that came to our track would always edge me out by a few tenths...
So pissed that my combo wasnt doing the job I just said screw it..If you cant beat em join em.....
I could have beat em...but another 1500$ for a cam change and tuning, plus another 1500 to upgrade my gears from 2.73's to 3.42's just so i could hit 400 rwhp and edge out the stock gen 2 vipers just didnt seam worth it any more...
especially when every time i opened a magazine their were cars coming out that put down 400 rwhp PLUS....And the C6z06 putting out 460 rwhp bone stock just really killed my dream of having a 400 rwhp NA LS1....
hell...evan my vipers 410 rwhp/465 rwt bone stock seams a little limp wristed compared to the cars coming out nowadays.....
480rwhp/480rwtq UNLOCKED A4 with a very conservative tune and only 14 degrees of timing. it was over 500/500 at 12:1. Timing should be at 16 which i will run next year when i start racing it. A stock Z06 is 530+ without trying.
Anyhow the viper i raced is torn apart right now getting a paxton...it will be closer next time.....
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Depends on what year he is...If he's a 96-99 then with no other mod besides a 10 pound paxton he will put down 600 rwhp and 800 rwt or maybe a little more..
But if he is a 2000 and up model his kit only can come with 5 psi since those engines aerent forged...And he'll be in the 500/700 or a little more range...
So since you said he's a 99 he's gonna defiently be out powering you...But the C5 is 150 pounds lighter and has better arodynamics..
I know that a stock C6Z06 with a cam and headers can easily get in the low 500's...But the problem with the C6Z06 is....NA it can become a beaste..But it seems like half the people who try to go on the juice or FI end up blowing their motor..
This is why I decided on a 99 viper over a 03 viper or 2006C6z06....I figured that they all looked nice...And each had their share of history...
But the SRT10 just hasnt been looking that great since 2003 as far as raw power and speed goes...Beautiful car...But just being in the top 20 fastest production cars in the world is not nearly enough...And then the engines also not forged
But in 1997 the gen 2 viper was the fastest production car you could by in the world..feels kinda nice having a peice of history like that sitting in my garage..All forged engine
The C6Z06 is simply amazing..But for the 700 rwhp power that Im after it was simply just the wrong platform...I dont want to steer the pot. But it seems like the cars achilies heel is that the engine blows on relativly low boost...
So I chose the gen 2....
-Most people say they are the best looking vipers
-fastest production car you could buy in the world in it's day
-Forged engine to handle 700 PLUS rwhp from juice or FI right out the box
But if he is a 2000 and up model his kit only can come with 5 psi since those engines aerent forged...And he'll be in the 500/700 or a little more range...
So since you said he's a 99 he's gonna defiently be out powering you...But the C5 is 150 pounds lighter and has better arodynamics..
I know that a stock C6Z06 with a cam and headers can easily get in the low 500's...But the problem with the C6Z06 is....NA it can become a beaste..But it seems like half the people who try to go on the juice or FI end up blowing their motor..
This is why I decided on a 99 viper over a 03 viper or 2006C6z06....I figured that they all looked nice...And each had their share of history...
But the SRT10 just hasnt been looking that great since 2003 as far as raw power and speed goes...Beautiful car...But just being in the top 20 fastest production cars in the world is not nearly enough...And then the engines also not forged
But in 1997 the gen 2 viper was the fastest production car you could by in the world..feels kinda nice having a peice of history like that sitting in my garage..All forged engine
The C6Z06 is simply amazing..But for the 700 rwhp power that Im after it was simply just the wrong platform...I dont want to steer the pot. But it seems like the cars achilies heel is that the engine blows on relativly low boost...
So I chose the gen 2....
-Most people say they are the best looking vipers
-fastest production car you could buy in the world in it's day
-Forged engine to handle 700 PLUS rwhp from juice or FI right out the box
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Originally Posted by Killemall
I know that a stock C6Z06 with a cam and headers can easily get in the low 500's...But the problem with the C6Z06 is....NA it can become a beaste..But it seems like half the people who try to go on the juice or FI end up blowing their motor..
No offense, a C6Z and Gen2 or 3 would be a no brainer for me. M3 Vette is trapping 130's with his C6Z with bolt-ons and you get a 5-year powertrain warranty to boot. That being said the Gen 2 Viper is still one of my favourite cars.
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Well the c6Z06 was the last one on my list...It's faster than the SRT10 in a straight line for sure...But high 11's at 120-123 mph isnt exactly slow eighter...
But since the viper came out in 2003 I have never seen an SRt10 actaually driving on the road..And Ive seen one gen 1 viper rt10 and two gen 2 vipers actually driving on the road...
In my life not counting car dealerships or the drag strip ive seen 3 vipers actually out cruising...
In contrast Ive seen 4 c6Z06s on the road in the past year....
To some people that wouldnt mean anything..But to me it made me lean towards the viper.....
No one can deny though that just putting a cam on an C6Z06 will let you trap 130's all day...Gotta give it to chevy on an amazing machine.
But since the viper came out in 2003 I have never seen an SRt10 actaually driving on the road..And Ive seen one gen 1 viper rt10 and two gen 2 vipers actually driving on the road...
In my life not counting car dealerships or the drag strip ive seen 3 vipers actually out cruising...
In contrast Ive seen 4 c6Z06s on the road in the past year....
To some people that wouldnt mean anything..But to me it made me lean towards the viper.....
No one can deny though that just putting a cam on an C6Z06 will let you trap 130's all day...Gotta give it to chevy on an amazing machine.
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killemall, what part of BFE do you live in? I'm in Jacksonvill FL, redneck capital USA, and see C6Zs and SRT V1p0rs EVERY DAY. Hell, we have several 1kwp+ street driven Vipers and Ferd Gts in town daily driven, and a few healthy Vettes as well. Maybe you shouold think about moving here. Roe Racing is right around the corner when you are ready get serious about your v1p0r! lol
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Well the c6Z06 was the last one on my list...It's faster than the SRT10 in a straight line for sure...But high 11's at 120-123 mph isnt exactly slow eighter...
But since the viper came out in 2003 I have never seen an SRt10 actaually driving on the road..And Ive seen one gen 1 viper rt10 and two gen 2 vipers actually driving on the road...
In my life not counting car dealerships or the drag strip ive seen 3 vipers actually out cruising...
In contrast Ive seen 4 c6Z06s on the road in the past year....
To some people that wouldnt mean anything..But to me it made me lean towards the viper.....
No one can deny though that just putting a cam on an C6Z06 will let you trap 130's all day...Gotta give it to chevy on an amazing machine.
But since the viper came out in 2003 I have never seen an SRt10 actaually driving on the road..And Ive seen one gen 1 viper rt10 and two gen 2 vipers actually driving on the road...
In my life not counting car dealerships or the drag strip ive seen 3 vipers actually out cruising...
In contrast Ive seen 4 c6Z06s on the road in the past year....
To some people that wouldnt mean anything..But to me it made me lean towards the viper.....
No one can deny though that just putting a cam on an C6Z06 will let you trap 130's all day...Gotta give it to chevy on an amazing machine.