timeslip inside..does this look good for the power its making?

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Old 04-10-2011, 07:49 AM
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Default timeslip inside..does this look good for the power its making?

the car is a 02ss camaro cam and boltons tuned by ecs made 430/408
4,000 stall vig 373 gear with 315/17 mickey drag radials
i ran it with 3/4 tank of gas and raceweight was 3656 stock rear springs with hose mod and eibach front springs stock shocks at all corners subframes,phb and rear lcas are what the suspention consist of at this point. pulled a 1.60 60 foot and i think i can get more out of it.i think it should have pulled better on the big end shift points where set at 6600 on the runs they raised it to 6750 seems to pull alittle harder but i couldnt get no more runs in.
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looks good too me. should 60 a little better with that stall and that much power. what size cam?
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If those dyno #'s are accurate I'd expect it to be quicker.
Cars have gone high 11.4's with much less hp and your approx. race weight and 100% stock suspension components.
You're from N.J. so search out DadsZ28. He races at Atco all the time...
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Originally Posted by jsteele90
looks good too me. should 60 a little better with that stall and that much power. what size cam?
cam is a ttp equalizer stage 3 i got the numbers somewhere im going to say the lift is in the 590s
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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
If those dyno #'s are accurate I'd expect it to be quicker.
Cars have gone high 11.4's with much less hp and your approx. race weight and 100% stock suspension components.
You're from N.J. so search out DadsZ28. He races at Atco all the time...
this is the first time the cars been to the track i had the cam installed years ago i was figureing it should be at the mid 11 sec point and trap around 118 for the hp numbers at least.i no its a starting point i got alot to work out from here the car performed well pulled strong threwout seemed as tho it needed alittle more rpm so i had them raise it alittle ill see what that gives me and i will be hooking up a ram air kit and taking a little weight out within the next week or so.the car has always made high hp numbers on the dyno i will post the graph from ecs
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Your car should be a little faster than that. I went 11.81 @115 in the heat with ported 241's, 3600 fuddle stall(yuck) and 373's.

The converter was garbage though I could only muster a 1.78 60ft on motor.

How were you launching the car? Were you up on the stall or were you flashing it? The 4000 you have would you happen to know the STR on it?
Get us those cam specs. The motor might want more rpm. What was the weather like?

With those dyno numbers it should be running 11.30-40

Just to give you a flip side a buddy of mine who is a member here (KH504)
has a stock bottom end, 228/234 cam, old MTI (Houston) ported 241 heads 12bolt 3.73 gears and a 4000 stall and with the interior removed except driver seat the car went 10.99 @123 on M/T 315 drag radials 1.53 60' ft. It runs 11.30 with the interior in the car and his fat butt in it. The 10.99 pass had a 170lb driver in the car.

It dyno'd 392 rwhp on Geoff@EPS' dyno. Mine dyno'd 382 on the same dyno
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cant get the damn dyno to post ill see if i can work it out
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Your car should be a little faster than that. I went 11.81 @115 in the heat with ported 241's, 3600 fuddle stall(yuck) and 373's.

The converter was garbage though I could only muster a 1.78 60ft on motor.

How were you launching the car? Were you up on the stall or were you flashing it? The 4000 you have would you happen to know the STR on it?
Get us those cam specs. The motor might want more rpm. What was the weather like?

With those dyno numbers it should be running 11.30-40

Just to give you a flip side a buddy of mine who is a member here (KH504)
has a stock bottom end, 228/234 cam, old MTI (Houston) ported 241 heads 12bolt 3.73 gears and a 4000 stall and with the interior removed except driver seat the car went 10.99 @123 on M/T 315 drag radials 1.53 60' ft. It runs 11.30 with the interior in the car and his fat butt in it. The 10.99 pass had a 170lb driver in the car.

It dyno'd 392 rwhp on Geoff@EPS' dyno. Mine dyno'd 382 on the same dyno

first run out i launched basically off idle and not all out 3/4 throttle to full pulled a 1.72 60'

second run i left alittle harder around 2,000 rpm and cut a 1.67

third run i left around 2800rpm 1.60 60'

i no theres still room on the 60 she was hooking hard id say with the setup im running which i no is **** i can pull atleast a 1.55 if the track is prepped right.i was figureing the car would have ran a 11.50 around 118 going by the dyno numbers to me it felt the car car needed to shift alittle higher ecs was at the track so i had them bring it up 150rpm should put me around 6750 shift points otherwise the car felt solid.on my last run it was id say 65 degrees full sun track was hooking very good
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I'd agree it should be a bit quicker...my LT1 ran an 11.24 @ 119.3 at nearly the same race weight, similar conditions and it makes almost the same power as yours. In my case, my launch was off idle as the track prep that day was mediocre.
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trap looks low. the car picks up the second half consistently, so i'm not really seeing anything other than a generous dyno.

yet another comparison - friend of mine went 11.7x @ 116 in a full weight 2000 b4c cam only car with a 4k yank on low 1.7x 60' in late summer. stock tb, ls6 intake, rear, susp, wheels, pulley...etc etc.

i'd expect 430whp to trap at least 118, even in a full weight automagic car.
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Originally Posted by s346k
trap looks low. the car picks up the second half consistently, so i'm not really seeing anything other than a generous dyno.

yet another comparison - friend of mine went 11.7x @ 116 in a full weight 2000 b4c cam only car with a 4k yank on low 1.7x 60' in late summer. stock tb, ls6 intake, rear, susp, wheels, pulley...etc etc.

i'd expect 430whp to trap at least 118, even in a full weight automagic car.
i too expected the car to trap around 118 im gunna try and get to the track wensday with the added rpm see if it helped some
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Yup looks like a happy dyno was used. Most full weight cam only cars trap 115 + or - 2 depending on weather and DA.
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^Probably was a happy dyno, unless the converter was locked. Otherwise, I don't think that et/mph is bad, more like average of what a cam only, full weight car should run imo. That's another story if you had ported heads. Sadly, I've seen ls h/c a4 and m6 cars run those times and 400+ ci ls cars still stuck in the 11s...
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I'm also going to say the dyno was happy. I would think an auto with that power could go 11.3-11.4 at 118.

For a cam only car you still ran a pretty good time fwiw
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
I'm also going to say the dyno was happy. I would think an auto with that power could go 11.3-11.4 at 118.

For a cam only car you still ran a pretty good time fwiw
thats what i thought for the hp.. overall for the first time to the track with the car wasnt to bad but the mph wasnt there for the hp ..i will try and get the dyno sheet posted up after work
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^Was the converter locked on the dyno?
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Originally Posted by shortdog
^Was the converter locked on the dyno?
i assume so...im wondering when im running the car if its locked?
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Dude, you've been here on tech going on 8 years and you don't know if your converter's locked or not?
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Originally Posted by shortdog
Dude, you've been here on tech going on 8 years and you don't know if your converter's locked or not?
funny...i no the converters locked what i meant is maybe there is more tranny tuning that can be done...im sure the converter was locked on the dyno judging by the numbers im thinking from all aspects here for the hp the car should trap more mph
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it would have gone quicker had he not had full weight AND 3/4 tank gas... You'll need a cage if you drop 100 pounds interior and to 1/4 tank



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