Smokinstorm

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We hit the track with the SS Friday night to have some fun. My 60 year old 180 pound buddy wanted to run his car so he called up and said, "Let's go Racing." How can I turn down an invitation like that???

Also, my regular 300 pound driver was there with his truck so this seemed like the perfect opportunity to try some back to back testing with small vs large driver.

Off the trailer with the 180 pound driver who hasn't driven my car since Vengeance got ahold of it went as follows:

60' 1.526
330' 4.438
660' 6.902
MPH 99.77

He hit the rev limiter before making the 1-2 shift then made the 2-3 shift a tad to quickly. Launch was around 2000 on this pass. Not great but not too bad for a get acquainted again pass with the car.

Next up was my 300 pound driver's turn. He launched around 2800 RPM, made clean shifts and went:

60' 1.515
330' 4.416
660' 6.881
MPH 99.39

The air was decent for the time of year but remember it's late May now. Negative DA just isn't in the cards anymore. I don't know what it actually was but the temp was in the upper 60's to around 70. No dew fell so the humidity was less than 100% obviously.

Back to the 180 pound driver for the 3rd pass. 2500 RPM lanch. Shifted early to make sure he didn't bump the rev limiter again. It showed in the times. It went:

60' 1.5198
330' 4.412
660' 6.871
MPH 99.79

No real mistakes except for shifting a tad early and I was actually surprised that having a 100+ pound lighter driver didn't make more of a difference. Remember I'm on the stock rims all the way around again so maybe the driver weight doesn't make as much of a difference with the heavy rolling stock.

My 180 pound driver tried one more time as I really wanted a new best for the car even given the May air and the extra weight I put on the car from the full sized battery and the stock rims on the back. Launched just under 3000 RPM and it went:

60' 1.500
330' 4.386
660' 6.830
MPH 100.70

He revved out the motor pretty good I thought but accidently went to Drive for an instant instead of 2nd but pulled it back down. It didn't really seem to hurt the pass though. Maybe .01-.02 at the most. The light driver mod finally showed up in the MPH.

No new best or anything but I did gather up a little more info on how the car is working. I don't know if we'll even run this quick or fast next time out as the temps are soon about to soar into the 80's and 90's with dew points in the 80's. The car didn't break nor did we crash the car. Good, fun night at the track. Thanks for reading everyone and see you at the track.

Coach 02 A3 Z/28

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Congrats on the great time at the track. Car sounds to be running very strong. Good luck the rest of the season.

Coach

Villain281H

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definately interesting to find out what the weight does. My buddy is licensed to 7.50 and is 140 pounds, so he gets calls to "test" some fast cars at times!

Derek

Smokinstorm

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I was thinking there would be more difference than we witnessed given the weight difference but since the 180 pound guy never made a solid pass that's probably why he didn't at least get into the high 6.70's. It's gotten hot now so I'm not really sure how much more we're going to beat up on the car until more mods are done or some cool weather sets in this Fall. If I go I'll post up so we can compare how the Summer weather affects the performance as well. Maybe it'll be some info we can use at one time or another.

Coach 02 A3 Z/28

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I was thinking about your set up, why do you run a 3.90 gear? 4.10's would make a difference, even 4.56 would run faster. Just thinking.

Coach

Smokinstorm

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I'm still running the same gear as when I was SI. I haven't changed it yet. I'm going to put in a spool at the same time and every time I got enough money together to change out everything, something else came up. The 3.90 gear was perfect when SI as my car nosed over pretty bad past 5600. The dyno confirmed this. Peak power SI was always 5600 or less. Once it even peaked at 5400 while trying something. I'm thinking 4.30's are best for me as that will still let me run a whole 1/4 mile. 4.56's may also but it'll be close. I figure I'll be trapping a little over 130 once I get the gears right and take another 300 or so pounds off the car. Since I'm still on the stock 2000 rod bolts I really don't want the engine to spend much, if any time above 7000 RPM. That's just why it's like it is now Coach. I do appreciate the input though. Thanks.

SEB

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In your mods in your sig. You put down 480 RWHP through a Auto. What kind of trans & Heads are you running. That is really impressive.

1936FordPU

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locked! numbers are for dyno queens seb...The car is making about 420-430 unlocked by those traps and weight.

Smokinstorm

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459.x unlocked. I sure hope you're not implying that my A4/12 bolt/drag slick combo is a dyno queen. Damn. Just to set the record straight, I can go quicker and faster by optimizing the usage of the power I'm making, i.e more gear and stall. This engine is really strong above 6500 and not so strong under 6000. So yes, I'm probably only using an average of 420-430 horsepower during my current runs but there is more power available if I can just use it. I figure if I get everything right the car will probably hit a high 6.6x @ 103-104 or so in good air. It's already run over 102 in ~+1000 DA air. Bench racing? Yeah, I guess so but it's a reasonably accurate prediction given what I've seen so far.

Ron@Vengeance

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LMFAO... Nice comment in the DRAG RACING forum lol.... Why is a locked # a dyno # if the converter can be locked up during the run?? If Smokin took his car to the 1/4 and locked the converter in 3rd he would trap SEVERAL mph higher than he would UNlocked....

David, Save up some cash man.. Ill sell you the gears/spool/converter at cost so you can run the # you are capable of running... I guess 102mph in 3300lbs +1000 DA just doesnt cut it.... LMFAO!!!

Black02SS

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Congrats on the times. So the car is 3300lb's with or without driver?

JNorris

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Congrats....Very strong numbers.

John

Smokinstorm

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The car weighs a little over 3100 now w/o driver. I weigh 380 but my friend that normally drives the car for me only weighs 300. He's a little guy. Last Friday night I had another guy that only weighs 180 drive the car. He might even drive it again tonight but it's hotter'n heck out there right now. The car might not even see a 6.8anything tonight.

Smokinstorm

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Thanks Ron. I'll take you up on that.

Note to everyone. This is why, IMO, Vengeance is a truly world class organization. They are into performance and never forget you after you leave their shop. Maybe other shops are the same but I'm going to have to stick with Vengeance for everything I do from here on out. Once again...


Vengeance Racing

1hotls1

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+1
I just made my first purchase from Vengeance and they went out of their way to make sure my questions were answered and came through for me in a time crunch. They will get all of my business in the future. Thanks Ron!

Smokinstorm

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Just a quick addition here, the car last Friday night with my 300 pound driver ran 6.92 and 6.96 in nasty air at just at tad over 99 MPH. 1.51 60' on the 6.92 but hit the rev limiter hard before the 1-2 shift. It's my fault as I told him not to shift early anymore and let's explore the power above 6500. Oops. Last pass was a 1.55 60'. He didn't build up on it much. The car in front of us had put down some water on the line and maybe he was scared to push our luck.

So, the car didn't quite break 6.80's in bad air with the 300 pound driver and fell short of 100 MPH also. My 180 pound buddy was also there that drove the car the previous week to the 6.83 but since I got to the track so late there wasn't much time to try him in the car. I'm sure it would have run a high 6.8x with him as my 300 pound driver was .04 off from his pass the previous week. I'll hit the track again with the temps in the 90's and DA in the 3500+ feet just to see what difference that makes. Just trying to compare different things right now to pass the info on. Get to the track, try different things and post up the results. It helps us all. Thanks for reading everyone.