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built 60e vs built th400 help me choose.

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Old 04-22-2009, 03:18 PM
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Default built 60e vs built th400 help me choose.

I have a choice for my ls1 swap its either a built4l60e (stage 2 performabuilt) or a built th400 with a tb and rmvb. Which is more efficent for drag racing. Having a rvmb don't matter. If I go with the 60e the pcm can shift for me. I'm leaning towards the 60e and its a built 383 ls1 with probably a 200-300shot. The gears are 4:56s tire size is unknown but give me your thoughts and opinions. Don't just vote. Thanks.
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wayyyy to much gear unless you're running a 32+ inch tire. Especially with that shot of nitrous, with that big a shot the TH400 gets the nod from me, the 4L60E wouldn't be my choice at all for serious builds.
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agree th400 and drop the rear gear to a 3.73 or 4.10 at most ......
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Why is that too much gear? I was planning on running that gear. Will he run out of gear before the 1/4?
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I made a thread a few months back and people were telling me I should go to a 4:88 with the th400. With a 29 tire.
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there is no comparision b/w the strength and application b/w a TH400 and 4L60e. i can tell you that you will be rebuilding the 4L60e, no mater WHO gives you some pretty guarantee at the end of the season if you are spraying that much on a healthy 383. a TH400 you will have no problems and will only need a mild freshening (cheap and easy) after a few hundred runs on nitrous.

i dont personalyl like the big first gear of the 4L60e as they tend to not like coming out of the hole hard.

as for gearing, you are way off unless you want to trap 115 mph or run a 30+ tall slick (or turn 8000 rpms)
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btw, if you are doing this in an Impala, even if you try to lighten it, its still going to be heavy.

dont waste your time or money with a 4L60e.
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
btw, if you are doing this in an Impala, even if you try to lighten it, its still going to be heavy.

dont waste your time or money with a 4L60e.
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dont throw money away on a 60e, it will take alot more $ to get it to take the same abuse as convetional built th400, even a th350 is way better choice.
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TH400 hands down especially if you're throwing 200 shot on top of it. ESPECIALLY IF ITS JUST WHATS BEST FOR DRAG RACING
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Good opinion guys and the impala will be pretty light about 3500 compared to 4300 stock. Pretty big differance.
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3500 lbs (plus driver?) is not light for anything being motivated by a 4L60e.
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have you considered a 4l80e.....best of both worlds
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th350,can be built strong enough to handle the power and lighter than both the 4l60 and th400
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Well I have both the 60e and 400 at home sitting so I don't want to get a differant trans.
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Go with the TH400, and possibly consider dropping the gear. Spray away... Can't wait to see that boat coming out of the hole.
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Depending on how much you actually drive the car, I say built 60E.
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Do you drive it on the street? If not I would go with the TH-400. If it sees a a decent amount of street time I would go with the 60E.
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im going with through the same thing but im leaning towards a th350 with a brake my new motor is going to be a 408 with 400 shot and i got 3.73 with a 28 slick
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There's only 5 people that voted in this poll that are completely wrong.

To put anything other then a TH400, or a TH350 in the car (TH400 in your case since you have it already) would be foolish at best. 4L80 is a viable option, but the weight is huge and honestly unless you plan to commute 50 miles a day with the car there's absolutely no need for the overdrive, especially with track performance being key.


One thing is for sure, anyone telling ya that a 4Ljunkie will work for you has no clue, and has never made any power and tried to run one of those POS transmissions.. if you even want to call it that.
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+1 JL.

4L60e are great for stock motors. hitting it with any amount of real torque will quickly destroy it. every tranny builder has some kind of great talk and line, but all fail and fail quickly. you might get a hero run a two, but if you plan on beating on it, do the TH400.

also, it takes a lot of money to make a TH350 on a brake work as good as a mild TH400 with brake. to me, the little bit of weight means nothing. its not like the guy is going out there racing in a class with race weight minimums.

BTW, i dont understand guys that think TH400s are unstreetable. most of them have never driven one on the street.


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