Attempted burnout in waterbox, UMI torque arm snapped, set off airbags...
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Attempted burnout in waterbox, UMI torque arm snapped, set off airbags...
Back in July I met up with some friends at the NMRA/NMCA races at Route 66 Raceway in Joliet, IL. On a whim, I decided to run in True Street. I made a weak shakedown pass with my BFG drag radials at 20 PSI. Everything seemed OK.
For the next pass, I aired down the tires to 12 PSI.
I drove to the water box. The tech guy gave us the signal to do a burn out. I revved the engine up to 5K, dumped the clutch, and
BOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!
It felt like something under the car exploded. Way, way louder than when my driveshaft broke a few years ago at the track. There was smoke everywhere. The airbags had deployed.
I trailered the car home and let it sit for a few weeks. This week I finally had some time to replace the dash and take a look under the car. The upper mount of the torque arm tube split right where the tube meets to the integrated nut...
Here's the basics of my setup:
I want to make one thing clear--I do not want to blindly point the finger at UMI for this failure. I certainly think it's worth reviewing the construction of the arms (such as the quality and penetration of the welds at the ends of the tubes). But first I want to rule out that this breakage happened due to a problem with how I set up the car. I'd like to share that information with the community so people know how to avoid running into this same problem.
I had the pinion angle set to -1 degree, based on the method in this video. However, I'm sure there's more to this failure than just pinion angle.
Has anyone seen this particular failure happen before? If so, what usually causes it?
Thanks!
For the next pass, I aired down the tires to 12 PSI.
I drove to the water box. The tech guy gave us the signal to do a burn out. I revved the engine up to 5K, dumped the clutch, and
BOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!
It felt like something under the car exploded. Way, way louder than when my driveshaft broke a few years ago at the track. There was smoke everywhere. The airbags had deployed.
I trailered the car home and let it sit for a few weeks. This week I finally had some time to replace the dash and take a look under the car. The upper mount of the torque arm tube split right where the tube meets to the integrated nut...
Here's the basics of my setup:
- Heads / cam LT1
- McLeod Street Twin
- Stock T56
- 4" aluminum driveshaft
- Moser 9" with standard Ford Posi and 4.11 gears
- UMI model 2205 arm
- model 2209 torque arm relocation kit
- LG coilovers
- LG rear swaybar
- Rod-ended aluminum LCA's, installed in the middle notch on the relocation brackets (they sit parallel to the ground when the car is at rest)
- Rod-ended PHR
- 315/35R17 BFG drag radials on 17x11 GrandSports
I want to make one thing clear--I do not want to blindly point the finger at UMI for this failure. I certainly think it's worth reviewing the construction of the arms (such as the quality and penetration of the welds at the ends of the tubes). But first I want to rule out that this breakage happened due to a problem with how I set up the car. I'd like to share that information with the community so people know how to avoid running into this same problem.
I had the pinion angle set to -1 degree, based on the method in this video. However, I'm sure there's more to this failure than just pinion angle.
Has anyone seen this particular failure happen before? If so, what usually causes it?
Thanks!
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id give umi a call and send it back to them it split right at the weld so it has something to do with the welds. im sure they would be more than happy to replace it and want it to see wat went wrong.-tony-
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the same thing happened to my friend's UMI torque arm (broke at the same area too) but his air bags didn't deploy. It was the newer design like yours too. i have the same one and i hope this doesn't happen..
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Not good to see..
Send us an e-mail to sales@umiperformance.com with your name, address, phone # and we will get you a replacement in the mail.
Sorry to see,
Ryan
Send us an e-mail to sales@umiperformance.com with your name, address, phone # and we will get you a replacement in the mail.
Sorry to see,
Ryan
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Nice to see UMI step up on this and not get a mod to lock the thread because they don't want to deal with the problem like with thier badly manufactured Rear Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/11740644-post65.html
I didn't even get a reply, just thier stonewalling that there isn't a problem with thier brackets. I want to be refunded the difference in price since I had to convert them to weld-ins, which I would have gladly bought if I would have known thier bolt-ins wouldn't fit.
In any case, interesting that they have issues with part fitment and now welds... Pretty sad actually, considering how many people seem to be going with thier stuff...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/11740644-post65.html
I didn't even get a reply, just thier stonewalling that there isn't a problem with thier brackets. I want to be refunded the difference in price since I had to convert them to weld-ins, which I would have gladly bought if I would have known thier bolt-ins wouldn't fit.
In any case, interesting that they have issues with part fitment and now welds... Pretty sad actually, considering how many people seem to be going with thier stuff...
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Ryan at UMI is awesome to deal with and he's a top notch guy. I'm sure he'll take care of this promptly.
If anyone is out their way, I urge you to stop in and tour their shop.
If anyone is out their way, I urge you to stop in and tour their shop.
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Nice to see UMI step up on this and not get a mod to lock the thread because they don't want to deal with the problem like with thier badly manufactured Rear Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/11740644-post65.html
I didn't even get a reply, just thier stonewalling that there isn't a problem with thier brackets. I want to be refunded the difference in price since I had to convert them to weld-ins, which I would have gladly bought if I would have known thier bolt-ins wouldn't fit.
In any case, interesting that they have issues with part fitment and now welds... Pretty sad actually, considering how many people seem to be going with thier stuff...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/11740644-post65.html
I didn't even get a reply, just thier stonewalling that there isn't a problem with thier brackets. I want to be refunded the difference in price since I had to convert them to weld-ins, which I would have gladly bought if I would have known thier bolt-ins wouldn't fit.
In any case, interesting that they have issues with part fitment and now welds... Pretty sad actually, considering how many people seem to be going with thier stuff...
As for the relocation bracket thread, it was locked by a moderator. We did everything in our ability to help. We told people on multiple times to call us and speak with our technical support... no call but they continued to post and complain. I am not familiar with your situation and don't recall ever dealing with exchanging brackets for weld in's? Did you speak with us during this swap?? If you feel the situation wasn't resolved correctly please e-mail sales@umiperformance.com with the details or call Brad in customer support. Explain the details on what happened, I honestly don't recall this situation. We can work out a solution for you and we will be happy to do it.
Thank you,
Ryan
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Not the first time a Torque Arm has broken and not the last time either. WHen you install the new one make sure you follow the directions to the T.... I have heard of people going to nuts with the adjustment's........ that might put to much tenesion on them... who knows....... only thing that matters is when the company steps up
Another reason I don't like air bags on cars that go to the track... I am scratching my head though on why they went off..
Another reason I don't like air bags on cars that go to the track... I am scratching my head though on why they went off..
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Not the first time a Torque Arm has broken and not the last time either. WHen you install the new one make sure you follow the directions to the T.... I have heard of people going to nuts with the adjustment's........ that might put to much tenesion on them... who knows....... only thing that matters is when the company steps up
Another reason I don't like air bags on cars that go to the track... I am scratching my head though on why they went off..
Another reason I don't like air bags on cars that go to the track... I am scratching my head though on why they went off..
Isn't the airbag control module under the center console? I'm sure it would fire the bags if you whacked it hard enough.
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Good ole stick car breaking another torqure arm. I have broken my fair share. Never set off the air bags, just let the air out of a tire once. Good luck, I hope it doesn't happen to you again.