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newbie_tace02 Feb 2, 2004 10:11 PM

How do you shift for low ET's
 
Have an M6. Usually I try to shift it just before the peak RPM for the car setup I have. But I get very different results depending on HOW it's shifted.

For example, if I do it by letting off the gas while hitting the clutch, and shift at the bottom of the clutch, I get nice RPM curves in EFILive (very consistent shapes). On the other hand, if I wait a little and shift while the clutch is coming back up, the RPM upslopes occur later in the log but occassionally I'll misshift and mash (grind - ouch!) the gears.

I've tried shifting while hitting the clutch and backing off the gas just a little bit (70 - 80%) throttle, not a full throttle release. The car tends to transition from gear to gear faster, but the damn tach jumps around a lot and it becomes hard to tell when it's time to for the next shift. I suspect clutch slip may be what's making the gauge jump around until it "bites".

At least to me, it seems as if the last method provides a more sustained power profile. The shifts feel closer together and the car is kept in a much narrower RPM band, like 4000 - 6000 RPM (if the factory tach isn't lying), but it's harder to nail the exact 6000 RPM spot where I should be shifting...

Anyone care to share your shifting secrets?

Navy David SS Feb 2, 2004 10:49 PM

First get an after-market tac with shift light. Set it at 6000 (or 6100) on the stock rev limiter of 6150.

On the shifting, why let off the gas at all :devil: . Learn to power shift. Without letting off the gas, jam in the clutch and shift all in the same motion. It will take practice, but after a while it is second nature. PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. Oh forgot, hope you have upgraded your clutch and tranny :rolleyes:

David

Damian Feb 3, 2004 02:20 AM

You don't need to POWERshift to be fast. I completely let off the gas when I shift, and my car sounds like an automatic while WOT...

Just takes practice..


josh

gator's 99TA Feb 3, 2004 10:06 AM

mine sounds like an automatic as WOT too...

racer88 Feb 4, 2004 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Navy David SS
First get an after-market tac with shift light. Set it at 6000 (or 6100) on the stock rev limiter of 6150.

On the shifting, why let off the gas at all :devil: . Learn to power shift.

David

I will say get a shift light! They are great.....you don't have a Mustang so you don't need to powershift! Most who have powershifted have torn up tranny's....it's not worth it.

You can be just as fast shifting if you practice.

Hardtop Feb 4, 2004 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Damian
You don't need to POWERshift to be fast. I completely let off the gas when I shift, and my car sounds like an automatic while WOT...

Just takes practice..


josh

Werd. :judge: :drive:

Bruce

SMOKIN01TA Feb 5, 2004 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Damian
You don't need to POWERshift to be fast. I completely let off the gas when I shift, and my car sounds like an automatic while WOT...

Just takes practice..


josh

ditto that

FAST LS1 Feb 5, 2004 11:47 PM

I lift also but shift as fast as humanly possible. I try to shift as close to the limiter as possible on every shift.

SMOKIN01TA Feb 6, 2004 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by FAST LS1
I lift also but shift as fast as humanly possible. I try to shift as close to the limiter as possible on every shift.

i have a video from my car at the shootout if i knew how to just select that section i would send it to you. there is a non noticable amount of drop in the front between shifts and i use the cluch, just fast as hell, after the new clutch i think my left leg doubled in size compared to the right one. :jest:

mike c. Feb 6, 2004 04:58 PM

summit has a GREAT dile and go shift light. it's $50.00 and fits awsome in front of the factory tac with some velcro. i never lift my foot off the gas when shifting,i've also NEVER had a trans problem in 20,000mi of pure balls to the wall abuse. :devil:

TheMongoose Feb 7, 2004 05:53 AM

got a part#?

mike c. Feb 7, 2004 09:02 AM

yes i do it's (pro-67005c) this is for the black shift light case. they also come in blue pro-67005bc,red pro-67005rc and silver pro-67005sc. it's a didial and go turn the knob to any rpm u want. no pills and can be adj-in odd # rpm's(6,100-6,200,6,300 and so on till 12,000rpm's) $49.88 this is bad azz.

Orange99Z Feb 7, 2004 09:42 AM

What about a Harlan shift light - red, yellow, green, orange, or blue LED's - adjustable from 500-12,000 for 2,4,6, and 8 cylinders with no pills or modules. It too is only $50 & $5 shipping. The biggest complaint I hear is that it takes a while to get it once it's ordered. Damn, this sounds like an add.

jamnut Feb 7, 2004 10:03 AM

I've had my Harlan light for almost 2 years. I set it when I first got it and it's never given me a bit of trouble. Never had to be re-programmed or anything. Also I must have been one of the rare ones, I got my light in under 3 weeks & was prepared to wait 2 months for it.

jerflash Feb 8, 2004 12:12 AM

get a shift light
if you are stock set it to 5800 because by the time you shift to second you will be at 6000. first gear revs fast.
second to third i wait a lil after the light goes on then shift but i listen to the motor also
and third to forth same thing just wait alil longer

and i dont powershift
12.40 @ 112 1.96 60ft(clutch slipin)
lid catback, nitto
12.51@115.5 best mph 1.94 60ft(tires blazin)

oh and i run a raptor shift light better the the harlen anyday

Bob Cosby Feb 8, 2004 07:25 AM

You can certainly be fast without powershifting - and you'll save parts, too. However, if you want to squeeze the last little bit of ET out of your car, aggressive powershifting (done correctly) will produce the best times.

jerflash Feb 8, 2004 08:10 AM

i can paoershift and i do it well its just that once powershifting 4th my trans got stcuk in forthgear and it came out and i dont have any problems now but until i have the cash to really beef it up i dont wana break it:D


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