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3rdCoastPowerSports Jan 20, 2012 02:31 PM

Launch RPM's?
 
simple question what RPM do you launch at with slicks? im trying to figure out what i should be launching at. I have a C5 corvette M6 with a spec 3 clutch and stock 3.42 gears. car has a cam 234/238 with all supporting mods and make mean power between 3,500 and 6,500 RPM's. What RPM should i be launching at with slicks/MT E/T streets?

99french Jan 20, 2012 03:35 PM

With my 28" Hoosiers and 4:11 gears I was launching at 5200

mike c. Jan 20, 2012 10:08 PM

I come out at 6,200 to 6,500 on m&h racemaster 26x11.5x15 cheeter slicks. M6 ws.6 car and i get 1.42 - 1.44 60's pretty good. I use a two step so it's the same every time.

3rdCoastPowerSports Jan 20, 2012 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by mike c. (Post 15865378)
I come out at 6,200 to 6,500 on m&h racemaster 26x11.5x15 cheeter slicks. M6 ws.6 car and i get 1.42 - 1.44 60's pretty good. I use a two step so it's the same every time.

what is a two step? so you launch at 6,200 and then immediately shift to 2nd at 6,500?

IslandParkRacing Jan 20, 2012 10:47 PM

Two step is a launch control. and he has the 2 step set at 6200-6500. the 2 step helps consistancy for maximum launch

Zmg00camaross Jan 20, 2012 10:54 PM

I launch at 6k quick release of the clutch let it rip.

Fbodyjunkie06 Jan 20, 2012 10:56 PM

This is a huge blanket statement to get an answer from. Depending on power output@each individual rpm's, what the track can hold, etc. etc. etc. it's going to be different for everyone.

For example I have a stalled auto, I stall it to 3500-4000 on the footbrake and the converter flashes 5800-5900 off the hit. I run drag radials though.

The main thing is, you are running a slick. Slicks need wheel speed to get the car off the line quickly. You DO NOT dead hook a slick. You want it to slip/spin a little and transition to not spinning gradually. If you dead hook a slick or if you go from spinning/slip to hooking abruptly your most likely going to break parts, especially in a IRS vette.

All that being said, launch at a rpm that allows wheel speed to be built off the line and that still nets you a decent short time. Take some tire chalk or white paint and mark a swatch about 4" wide on the tire so you can see it spinning better off the line to judge just how much slip you are getting.

3rdCoastPowerSports Jan 21, 2012 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06 (Post 15865533)
This is a huge blanket statement to get an answer from. Depending on power output@each individual rpm's, what the track can hold, etc. etc. etc. it's going to be different for everyone.

For example I have a stalled auto, I stall it to 3500-4000 on the footbrake and the converter flashes 5800-5900 off the hit. I run drag radials though.

The main thing is, you are running a slick. Slicks need wheel speed to get the car off the line quickly. You DO NOT dead hook a slick. You want it to slip/spin a little and transition to not spinning gradually. If you dead hook a slick or if you go from spinning/slip to hooking abruptly your most likely going to break parts, especially in a IRS vette.

All that being said, launch at a rpm that allows wheel speed to be built off the line and that still nets you a decent short time. Take some tire chalk or white paint and mark a swatch about 4" wide on the tire so you can see it spinning better off the line to judge just how much slip you are getting.

thanks for the knowledge i didnt know any of that... im just starting to learn how to properly run a 1/4 mile. I will be honest i have never ran a slick before so i am totally ignorant to the process... I thought i threw on the slicks, smoked them a bit in the water box, pulled up to the line, put it at 5K, drop the clutch Milli seconds before the light turns green, the slicks catch 100% (dead hook i believe is the term, right?) and off down the track i go. Your saying that in an IRS car if i dead hook then i break parts? so should i not be running slicks with an IRS???
sorry if i sound dumb about this but i promise i will learn fast

Fbodyjunkie06 Jan 22, 2012 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by 3rdCoastPowerSports (Post 15868275)
thanks for the knowledge i didnt know any of that... im just starting to learn how to properly run a 1/4 mile. I will be honest i have never ran a slick before so i am totally ignorant to the process... I thought i threw on the slicks, smoked them a bit in the water box, pulled up to the line, put it at 5K, drop the clutch Milli seconds before the light turns green, the slicks catch 100% (dead hook i believe is the term, right?) and off down the track i go. Your saying that in an IRS car if i dead hook then i break parts? so should i not be running slicks with an IRS???
sorry if i sound dumb about this but i promise i will learn fast

There are no dumb questions, as long as you follow up and do the right thing with that knowledge. Do your burn-out make sure you see a good bit of smoke, a good 1...2...3 works good most the time. Play with the launch a bit, but with the slicks as I said in my first post, you'll want the tires to slip off the launch initially and then bite, just as long as the transisition isn't too abrupt you'll be fine.

Just because you have an IRS car doesn't mean it will break parts if it dead hooks. Just more prone to break like a 10 bolt rear end would be. Most all the guys that run manual transmissions run slicks for the fact that they aren't meant to be dead hooked(no spin). It's easier on parts with a manual trans car as the launch is much more violent than an automatic car, even one with a transbrake because the converter acts like a fluid filled shock absorber when the car is launched in an automatic car, whereas a manual has no give in the driveline. I didn't mean to scare you from racing your car as in racing things that are weak will break, and then you upgrade as each part will be tested to the max.

Hope this helps some. Ask as many questions as you need too.

gconnoyer Jan 23, 2012 11:20 AM

^ you definitely do need something to give in a manual car or something will break.
Also, some slippage off the line is good because in a manual, if it doesn't slip, you'll just bog and it'll hurt your et.

You'll probably 60' fine but it will bog and your 330' will suffer bad.

Slowhawk Jan 23, 2012 12:22 PM

In my C5 I would launch at 6000rpm with a slight slip of the clutch to load the back of the car. Only problem is that clutch won't take it for long.

JL ws-6 Jan 30, 2012 08:01 PM

PUt a 2 step in the car and just keep raising it, and drop the clutch, with gas to the floor... keep raising the 2 step until the car stopps bogging.

Be prepared to start replacing parts too.

nmass399 Jan 31, 2012 01:32 AM

It will probably bog no matter what you launch at because of the 3.42's, i don't think you should launch it really high because you will be breaking parts if the rearend is stock. You really need a two step to help be consistent with the launch rpm's. I suggest getting a two step and working your way up in 500 to 1000 rpm increments from 3000 or 4000. Being able to data log wheel speed and rpm that the car stays at will help you learn what the car is gonna do.

Mine stays right around 5000 rpms and between 29 to 32 mph on my data log till the car gets up to speed when i launch at 4500 rpms. The car 60fts in the same area no matter if i launch at 4500 or 6500. And slows very minimally the lower i launch it at. You need wheel speed to get good 60 ft's and to test different air pressures to see what your car likes.

3rdCoastPowerSports Feb 1, 2012 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by JL ws-6 (Post 15904839)
PUt a 2 step in the car and just keep raising it, and drop the clutch, with gas to the floor... keep raising the 2 step until the car stopps bogging.

Be prepared to start replacing parts too.

what parts should i be prepared to replace


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