fastlif

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I know this will start a flame war but...

I just dont see why anyone would want to have a solid roller XXX cu. in LS1 etc etc etc.

If you want a race car with no air, interior etc...why not build a true race car and run alot faster for a lot less $$?

Why tubb or mini tubb a $20,000 car?

I am very impressed with some of the numbers and the technology but I personally want a street car with full interior, AC, good brakes, handles well etc.

Just my $.02 and wondering if any others agree. I am more impressed with a "real" street car with AC, full interior etc that runs 10's than a solid roller, huge cu. in. motor with drag only suspension that runs 9's maybe 8's.

anyone? <img src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" border="0" alt="[fight]" />

BIGBOS

The LS1's have a lot of appeal, they are streetable all the time and can EASILY be modded, most of us here don't plan on going into the 9's...I just want 11's then I'm done and it will still be a very nice looking car on the street...

Sure I could of bought a vega and run 10's all day, but its a piece of crap, doesn't look good, etc etc etc <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />

Skelton

Its all just personal preference and how much do we care to spend. Some here have cubic wallets and some just get bored easily while others plain live to mod thier cars. Its pretty simple. To each thier own.

Red02LS1

"most of us here don't plan on going into the 9's...I just want 11's then I'm done and it will still be a very nice looking car on the street..."

Isn't that what they all say?? I just want to run 11's, then no more mods. HaHa. Next thing you'll be running a MTI 422 W/ a 200 shot tryin to run 9's.

BIGBOS

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Guido

I said the same thing once about my 3rd gen. Just wanted a fast street car.

Then I started going faster. And faster. And it never ends. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

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2000 Camaro SS

I have been asked questions like this many times. I always say why would I want to take a 30 year old car that is old, heavy and can't find parts for and build it? This way I start with a nice car with a good track record. I really question the fact that a 30 year old car is cheaper to build if you take into account the cost of stripping it down to the chassis and rebuilding it from there to include the body work and paint. We have to compare apples to apples both vehicles have to be in new condition to compare them. One can't just take a nice 30 year old vehicle, put a big engine in it and say wow I got off cheaper ... when the body and all of the rest of the car is in poor repair. Look at it again from this angle and see if it is really cheaper. Besides some of us are old and don't have the 5 to 10 years to work on a car to get it ready to race. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Tums

AHH FYI It really depends on what the person that owns the car wants to do with it. If you do not like a solid roller then get a hydraulic cam. MTI sells them with the warranty and colonel has proven they can make some power. Really it is a to each his own type thing. Just the same as why some people eat some types of food and while some do not. It is purely up to the person about were to stop at. You get all the benefits from them learning what the limitations are on everthing. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Pro Stock John

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I have had a ton of old cars. I recently sold a 1969 Z28 M21 car.

Even my 49,000 mile Z28 needed a lot of this'n that.

I bought my 98 Formula for $17K used with 25,000 miles on the clock.

I bought it to build a car that runs 10's on pump gas, can drive 400 miles one way, and run 9's with nitrous.

I'm getting close to my goals.

I drove my car 200 miles in the last three days.

LS1LT1

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I kind of agree. I am quite happy having a completely docile, very stock running/appearing 12.8 second street car and I think I might just have the will power to resist modding further. Although I know you can build a high 11 second A4 somewhat easily that would be nearly as streetable as mine. Tempting. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />

APU6speed

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that's why you race thirdgen's. Much cheaper initial cost and it's still relatively new so all of the parts aren't falling off the car and easily available <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />

Supertrapped

I think the point Fastlif is trying to make is taking a "street car" and tearing it down and dropping gobs of weight off. Why not build it instead of break it down? Sure...some of us have fast *** street cars that race in full trim. Just because you can drive it back home...doesn't necessarliy mean its a street car though. IMO...a lot of us don't have a true street car. A true street car is in full trim...with the exception of wheels, race seats, tires, etc...you know, the little stuff.

I got two other cars I making into drag cars. I wanna see some 6 second quarters outta those too....but 7s will suffice. They will be weekend drivers too <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> ....but not street cars.

KECHME

My question is , why not ?

Nine Ball

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Because we can? <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

My car is one of the quickest all-motor daily-drivers in the area, and never sees a trailer. Many trailer queens at HRP have seen it's tail lights and looked in awe as I drove the car home after the events.

Its fun going into a car that your grandfather didn't go into first, know what I mean?

Tony

fastlif

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I guess its just me. If I want a "race" car it would be a 6 second dragster. Which I am working on. I just dont see spending lots of money on a "race" car with out shooting for the fastest thing around. My best friend runs top dragster and if you are gonna trailor a car to track why not run 6.xx@205 etc.

MY car is very sstreetable and I hope to run 10's on spray but I will not strip the car down and make it a trailor car.

just my opinion.

Pro Stock John

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I don't want a 6 second dragster. That's some crazy ****. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

DRAGULA is my hotrod.

And like 9ball said, I have passed many a trailer queen on the way up to GLD, run faster than them, and then passed them again on the highway...

I can't call my car a 10 second car yet. But how many cars can run 11 flat on pump gas.

Don't get me wrong, the car is pretty radical.

But I can drive it in rush hour traffic.

I have many times. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

What's your point?

Tums

Fastlif you are only thinking of this from one perspective. I have friends that have all kinds of toys (Planes, Boats, Motorcycles, Cars, Buses, ATV's, ect..). All have pretty much been modified for what ever they are doing with them. What I am getting at is it is a TOY reguardless of it is someone's daily driver or not. If you make any modification someone somewhere will always say there was no need for that. It probably will be true, but the fact was you wanted to do it, so you did. As far as how much someone spends on a toy being alot needs to be matched to the person. Come on man would buying one of these cars and tricking it out brake Bill GATES. Is Jack Rousch going to go broke because of his planes. Get what I am saying, the amount depends on the person. $20,000 does not mean near as much if you make 20 million <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> . They same argument you are making about "why do this" can be made about the 6 second car . Both will probably cost more than you will ever get in return dollar wise. The fact is it was done because it was what that person wanted to do. END OF STORY. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

Jim98WS6

[quote]Originally posted by Tums:
<strong>... What I am getting at is it is a TOY reguardless of it is someone's daily driver or not... The fact is it was done because it was what that person wanted to do. END OF STORY. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Sums it up pretty well I think <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

fastlif

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I guess maybe I worded my question wrong. This is a toy for me also, my daily driver is a tahoe.

I guess what I was asking is ARE THERE ANY OTHER GUYS OUT THERE MORE IMPRESSED WITH LOW 11 TO HIGH 10 SECOND STREETCAR, THAN A LOW 10 HIGH 9 SECOND TRAILOR CAR?

It all came out wrong...believe me I have wasted more money on dumb things than you can imagine. I had a stock bore yamaha banshee that ran high 11's on knobby tires @ over 103mph. on race gas (no alcohol..blah blah blah) I guess I am one of those guys that wants it all, driveability and speed.

I also had a 9 second gsxr1000, but got bored with it because i didnt want to stretch the swingarm etc.

I know to each his own, just wondering who all has the same idea as me.

I would never put down a faster car or anything because it was a trailor car. Didnt mean to sound that way. If I had the funds I would have a trailor car(doorslammer) and a dragster etc.

maybe one day.

Nine Ball

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[quote]ARE THERE ANY OTHER GUYS OUT THERE MORE IMPRESSED WITH LOW 11 TO HIGH 10 SECOND STREETCAR, THAN A LOW 10 HIGH 9 SECOND TRAILOR CAR?<hr></blockquote>

Yes, right here.

VERY few daily drivers run 10s-11s, much fewer than the 12-13 second "trailer" cars I see at HRP. What a joke! It better run 10s minimum if it requires a trailer in my opinion.

And no, I'm not talking about daily-drivers who's owners have access to a trailer. I'm talking about those POS slug old school cars that guys take off the cinder blocks in their front yards each year to bring it to HRP to run 12s and end up oiling down the track.

Tony