What not to do(and do) at the track
09-09-2016, 06:20 AM
#21
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I know a turbo car in the other lane I light both immediately every time... Especially if we're on the 7 second auto start.
Curtosey is nice and all until there's $ involved.
Curtosey makes a guy hat has to build boost have a chance to get his car spooled up and have time to then bump
It into the 2nd light. Also guys with stick cars it's a little harder to get into the beans where they like so going at it slowly assists them.
I normally will adhere by this curtosey rule unless I'm in it for $ then if I can throw them off their game I will do it every time.
Curtosey is nice and all until there's $ involved.
Curtosey makes a guy hat has to build boost have a chance to get his car spooled up and have time to then bump
It into the 2nd light. Also guys with stick cars it's a little harder to get into the beans where they like so going at it slowly assists them.
I normally will adhere by this curtosey rule unless I'm in it for $ then if I can throw them off their game I will do it every time.
Really comes down to if autostart is enabled. If its not then it doesn't matter about the 7 second time out. Car's like ours comes up onto the chip in 3.5ish seconds so we don't really have to worry about being time'd out
09-09-2016, 07:08 AM
#22
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09-09-2016, 07:25 AM
#23
Gotta be careful doing that, I've seen bad things happen when people play games like that.
Really comes down to if autostart is enabled. If its not then it doesn't matter about the 7 second time out. Car's like ours comes up onto the chip in 3.5ish seconds so we don't really have to worry about being time'd out
Really comes down to if autostart is enabled. If its not then it doesn't matter about the 7 second time out. Car's like ours comes up onto the chip in 3.5ish seconds so we don't really have to worry about being time'd out
I'm not scared. Comes to anything that's on the autostart program... I guarintee I'm in and double bulbing the other guy, I've specifically practiced getting thru the burnout and staged fast just for this reason.
And if it's not.... I'll sit there with one bulb lit for a day and a half especially if I hear a car spoiling in the other lane and he bumps it up in..... I'll wait a good 30 seconds, or until I hear him drop it, then I'll light the 2nd.
When $ is on the line..... $ is $ and a win is a win. Sorry to say, but it doesn't matter how or by how much you win. This is RACING, goal is to WIN.
In the same sense that people take advantage of every rule there is..... I do the same at the starting line. Expensive hobby, and I like to take every opportunity to make it pay for itself... Sad thing is I do this **** even if I know I have a race in the bag.... No athiest in a fox hole and there's no honor amongst grudge racers
09-12-2016, 12:03 PM
#25
I'm not scared. Comes to anything that's on the autostart program... I guarintee I'm in and double bulbing the other guy, I've specifically practiced getting thru the burnout and staged fast just for this reason.
And if it's not.... I'll sit there with one bulb lit for a day and a half especially if I hear a car spoiling in the other lane and he bumps it up in..... I'll wait a good 30 seconds, or until I hear him drop it, then I'll light the 2nd.
When $ is on the line..... $ is $ and a win is a win. Sorry to say, but it doesn't matter how or by how much you win. This is RACING, goal is to WIN.
In the same sense that people take advantage of every rule there is..... I do the same at the starting line. Expensive hobby, and I like to take every opportunity to make it pay for itself... Sad thing is I do this **** even if I know I have a race in the bag.... No athiest in a fox hole and there's no honor amongst grudge racers
And if it's not.... I'll sit there with one bulb lit for a day and a half especially if I hear a car spoiling in the other lane and he bumps it up in..... I'll wait a good 30 seconds, or until I hear him drop it, then I'll light the 2nd.
When $ is on the line..... $ is $ and a win is a win. Sorry to say, but it doesn't matter how or by how much you win. This is RACING, goal is to WIN.
In the same sense that people take advantage of every rule there is..... I do the same at the starting line. Expensive hobby, and I like to take every opportunity to make it pay for itself... Sad thing is I do this **** even if I know I have a race in the bag.... No athiest in a fox hole and there's no honor amongst grudge racers
I had a friend I was helping run his car a couple weeks ago that burnt his converter up on this kind of stuff. He is relatively new so he spooled and bumped his car in while the nitrous car he was running was only in the first beam. That guy let him sit on the chip for a good 4-5 seconds before he rolled in the second beam. Nitrous car backfired about 300' out and we still got the win, but it cost him a converter. So in the end, noone really won. Both ended up with hurt racecars
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09-12-2016, 09:27 PM
#26
See now that I know that about you.... If we lined up at a race with an autostart I'd have my lights lit before you even started your burnout lol.
Everyone can be messed with on the starting line one way or another... It's about knowing what your opponent likes to do and doesn't like to do.
Nitrous car, turbo car there's ways to throw people off their game. All depends on what your "normal" procedure is, and what you can deal with as a driver and not let it get to you.
Most people, see someone double bulb them get in a stupid rush and end up screwing up somehow, the turbo car well you know what I do with those lol.
Sometimes I'll just go deep once all 4 bulbs are lit as some people try to do the same and go too far.....
I built my car with a couple "tricks" with the front end that you won't notice without a tape measure so I have additional room to "play". ;-)
Everyone can be messed with on the starting line one way or another... It's about knowing what your opponent likes to do and doesn't like to do.
Nitrous car, turbo car there's ways to throw people off their game. All depends on what your "normal" procedure is, and what you can deal with as a driver and not let it get to you.
Most people, see someone double bulb them get in a stupid rush and end up screwing up somehow, the turbo car well you know what I do with those lol.
Sometimes I'll just go deep once all 4 bulbs are lit as some people try to do the same and go too far.....
I built my car with a couple "tricks" with the front end that you won't notice without a tape measure so I have additional room to "play". ;-)
09-12-2016, 11:48 PM
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I try not to double bulb, really prefer to flicker the bottom bulb so my rollout stays consistent.
However there is that handful of regulars that get double bulbed. Im bracket racing so it just comes down to what's more beneficial to me, having my routine, or you not having yours.
T&T and qualifying I always courtesy stage.
I guess my biggest pet peeve is cherry pickers at the back of the lanes. The way my track runs, you're not getting paid until the semis. Even then it's your entry fee so don't sit there waiting on the new guy to roll up and go hell busting through the lanes to pair up with him. Ironically my favorite part is when that plan backfires.
However there is that handful of regulars that get double bulbed. Im bracket racing so it just comes down to what's more beneficial to me, having my routine, or you not having yours.
T&T and qualifying I always courtesy stage.
I guess my biggest pet peeve is cherry pickers at the back of the lanes. The way my track runs, you're not getting paid until the semis. Even then it's your entry fee so don't sit there waiting on the new guy to roll up and go hell busting through the lanes to pair up with him. Ironically my favorite part is when that plan backfires.
09-13-2016, 05:49 AM
#28
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Being a guy with a turbo car, I always go in second if there is a nitrous/blower car in the other lane. I won't even start spooling until I see that bottom light come on in the other lane. If they don't want to go in first, then we would will a good old fashioned Warren Johnson Pro-stock staging duel
I had a friend I was helping run his car a couple weeks ago that burnt his converter up on this kind of stuff. He is relatively new so he spooled and bumped his car in while the nitrous car he was running was only in the first beam. That guy let him sit on the chip for a good 4-5 seconds before he rolled in the second beam. Nitrous car backfired about 300' out and we still got the win, but it cost him a converter. So in the end, noone really won. Both ended up with hurt racecars
I had a friend I was helping run his car a couple weeks ago that burnt his converter up on this kind of stuff. He is relatively new so he spooled and bumped his car in while the nitrous car he was running was only in the first beam. That guy let him sit on the chip for a good 4-5 seconds before he rolled in the second beam. Nitrous car backfired about 300' out and we still got the win, but it cost him a converter. So in the end, noone really won. Both ended up with hurt racecars
4-5 seconds on the brake isn't all that long, after 7 seconds it starts to get me concerned, if I count to 10... I'm yelling at the starter at that point. We got burnt down realllllly bad a few weeks ago.
Track "disabled the auto start because people kept tripping and messing the system up".
all I'm gonna say is.................. 18 seconds.
Trans was hot.
09-13-2016, 05:53 AM
#29
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See now that I know that about you.... If we lined up at a race with an autostart I'd have my lights lit before you even started your burnout lol.
Everyone can be messed with on the starting line one way or another... It's about knowing what your opponent likes to do and doesn't like to do.
Nitrous car, turbo car there's ways to throw people off their game. All depends on what your "normal" procedure is, and what you can deal with as a driver and not let it get to you.
Everyone can be messed with on the starting line one way or another... It's about knowing what your opponent likes to do and doesn't like to do.
Nitrous car, turbo car there's ways to throw people off their game. All depends on what your "normal" procedure is, and what you can deal with as a driver and not let it get to you.
We like to normally talk with our competitor and see if they have any preference or anything. You know, give the courtesy, a lot of whom we race with are well known and racers that have been doing this along time and have their car's figured out.
Majority of the time you go up to the line and do your thing. Don't worry about the other guy, focus on the tree, what you have do to and Do Work.
09-13-2016, 06:21 AM
#30
7 second auto start, u less rules say the curtosey is required... It's not and they may not move ya.
When running our index class all the cars are mostly big block and small block nitrous cars or big n/a motor stuff so there's not a whole lot you can do other than play the deep game and try to screw with guys that way.
Grudge stuff though I'm screwing with the other guys head. One way or another.... I know what I have in the bag within a tenth pretty much all the time and unless you had dead reliable info you have no idea what the other guys car runs.... It's all n/t just a win light, so anything I can get, I'll take it.
When running our index class all the cars are mostly big block and small block nitrous cars or big n/a motor stuff so there's not a whole lot you can do other than play the deep game and try to screw with guys that way.
Grudge stuff though I'm screwing with the other guys head. One way or another.... I know what I have in the bag within a tenth pretty much all the time and unless you had dead reliable info you have no idea what the other guys car runs.... It's all n/t just a win light, so anything I can get, I'll take it.
09-13-2016, 07:42 AM
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I support your right for marriage equality and all, but double bulbing a guy to try and time him out or melting down the other guys car is the gayest thing I've ever heard of.
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