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greend216 02-15-2017 08:59 AM

Why do a battery relocation ?
 
Somebody asked me when I was doing a battery relocation now? I said I don't know yet but soon but why should i ? I'm confused as to why he asked me this ? Why do people do them?

necrocannibal 02-15-2017 11:39 AM

Take weight from the front and put it in the rear and/or save space up front.

greend216 02-15-2017 11:51 AM

Thanks

01ssreda4 02-15-2017 01:54 PM

It actually adds weight (added wire, new mount etc). A smaller front battery is a better solution in most cases IMO.

necrocannibal 02-15-2017 03:42 PM

I think it's mostly to put weight over the rear instead of the front.

SteenH 02-15-2017 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by necrocannibal
I think it's mostly to put weight over the rear instead of the front.

It's a transfer of like 80 pounds.
I understand the argument about the adding 5 lbs of wire weight, "just get a lightweight battery".. But putting the battery in the back made a ridiculous difference in the way my car transferred weight on the street. And you never know what issues could arise that you may need the extra capacity of a regular battery.

BOLO 02-15-2017 09:02 PM

Relocating the batt to the rear will not add weight considerably. 12-15 ft of 1 or 2 gauge wires don't weigh that much. Ask members that have done them.

Heyfred 02-15-2017 09:18 PM

Battery in stock location, 200lb in drivers seat, full tank of fuel and adding 90lbs. to the right rear.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps4hj6infi.jpg

greend216 02-15-2017 09:28 PM

Your at full weight ?

Heyfred 02-15-2017 09:48 PM

Yes, ready to run.

01ssreda4 02-16-2017 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by SteenH (Post 19535259)
It's a transfer of like 80 pounds.
I understand the argument about the adding 5 lbs of wire weight, "just get a lightweight battery".. But putting the battery in the back made a ridiculous difference in the way my car transferred weight on the street. And you never know what issues could arise that you may need the extra capacity of a regular battery.

I love posts like this. Where do you come up with this BS? :bang: A stock sized battery weighs 35lbs, thats it!!!! Anything above that (you moved) is ADDED weight NOT transferred weight. Properly sized wire run to the back will be over 5lbs PLUS you have to mount the battery down with something (i.e. more added metal). And "ridiculous" difference.....nope, that was mostly in your head.

NewOrleansLT1 02-16-2017 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by 01ssreda4 (Post 19534978)
It actually adds weight (added wire, new mount etc). A smaller front battery is a better solution in most cases IMO.

This^^

SteenH 02-16-2017 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
I love posts like this. Where do you come up with this BS? :bang: A stock sized battery weighs 35lbs, thats it!!!! Anything above that (you moved) is ADDED weight NOT transferred weight. Properly sized wire run to the back will be over 5lbs PLUS you have to mount the battery down with something (i.e. more added metal). And "ridiculous" difference.....nope, that was mostly in your head.

How can you say that it's not transferred weight though? You're removing 35 from the FAR front where you don't want it, and putting it into the back where it's helpful. (In my simple mind, that's a transfer of 70 pounds) And as stated the wiring weighs something.. (id honestly be surprised if it was over 5 lbs, and the aluminum box..)

I don't understand why you're getting upset simply because someone says something that you do not agree with.. I'm glad you think that what you did was the right thing.. And it is if it works for you, but you're the same guy telling these guys that your battery is great, even though it frequently comes up that the same battery simply isn't enough for regular street duty?
Relax pal

Edit: to anyone who can afford one of the high powered, low weight lithium batteries (or whatever they are), by all means.. That's the dream.
And I'm sorry that I offended you by claiming a stock battery was "like" 40 pounds, rather than 35 :rolleyes:

MidwestChassis2 02-16-2017 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by greend216 (Post 19534619)
Somebody asked me when I was doing a battery relocation now? I said I don't know yet but soon but why should i ? I'm confused as to why he asked me this ? Why do people do them?

The Simple answer, It is to take the weight of the battery from the front and put it in the rear.

01ssreda4 02-16-2017 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by SteenH (Post 19535896)
How can you say that it's not transferred weight though? You're removing 35 from the FAR front where you don't want it, and putting it into the back where it's helpful. (In my simple mind, that's a transfer of 70 pounds) And as stated the wiring weighs something.. (id honestly be surprised if it was over 5 lbs, and the aluminum box..)

I don't understand why you're getting upset simply because someone says something that you do not agree with.. I'm glad you think that what you did was the right thing.. And it is if it works for you, but you're the same guy telling these guys that your battery is great, even though it frequently comes up that the same battery simply isn't enough for regular street duty?
Relax pal

Edit: to anyone who can afford one of the high powered, low weight lithium batteries (or whatever they are), by all means.. That's the dream.
And I'm sorry that I offended you by claiming a stock battery was "like" 40 pounds, rather than 35 :rolleyes:

Definitely not upset buddy, I just like to correct misleading posts, which is what yours was. You cant magically multiply weight because of location, and I understand geometry and physics but still, just call it like it is, no more no less. If you need to run accs between rounds or need a rear mounted cutoff switch (probably not most users on this site), by all means put your full sized battery in the rear. But for most average cars a smaller AGM will cut weight, add none, and be a super simple install. I also did not advocate lithiums bc Im not 100% sold on them in this application. A battery is a reserve unit for mainly the starter AND to buffer current from the alternator.....it doesn't NEED capacity unless you have demands with the engine off. A small battery is fine, mine has never not started the car.

BMR Sales2 02-16-2017 05:00 PM

I went all against the grain. Lightweight battery, in the rear and fuel cell in the front :eek2:

93camaro_zzz 02-16-2017 05:40 PM

Let's not forget that it also makes it extremely easy to make a battery disconnect switch.

01ssreda4 02-16-2017 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by BMR Sales2 (Post 19536160)
I went all against the grain. Lightweight battery, in the rear and fuel cell in the front :eek2:

How does it work with the longer cables???

The Cartel 02-16-2017 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by 93camaro_zzz (Post 19536191)
Let's not forget that it also makes it extremely easy to make a battery disconnect switch.

this...

BMR Sales2 02-17-2017 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by 01ssreda4 (Post 19536201)
How does it work with the longer cables???

I gotta make sure its charged up pretty well. It does try to drag a little if I have to start it a couple times, or run the fans for a little bit with it not running. I do have a gear reduction starter, but I'm not running crazy compression either. But it's also a BBC and I run no electronics. If I had a bunch of power stuff in the car still I would probably go back to something bigger.


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