Stall converter...what's everyone running?
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There arent "infinite" numbers of internal combos. We know there are basic but sufficient case sizes for our common applications, usually 9.5, 10.25 and an 11 incher. You have a pump, stator, and a turbine. Three variables internally. These guys know what combos do what in common applications. As long as you talk to them beforehand it shouldnt be labeled as a "shelf" converter even though it probably is bc they've done the exact same combo 100 times before, know what to spec, and have a few sitting waiting because they are so common.
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There arent "infinite" numbers of internal combos. We know there are basic but sufficient case sizes for our common applications, usually 9.5, 10.25 and an 11 incher. You have a pump, stator, and a turbine. Three variables internally. These guys know what combos do what in common applications. As long as you talk to them beforehand it shouldnt be labeled as a "shelf" converter even though it probably is bc they've done the exact same combo 100 times before, know what to spec, and have a few sitting waiting because they are so common.
#24
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Yes, just calling a company (ATI/PTC/ETC,ETC) and buying a 3000, or whatever stall = a shelf unit. Having one spec'd by a converter BUILDER for your combo and built for YOUR combo will give better results every damn time (may need a re-stall to make perfect since there are variables.)
A "5000" stall may or may not stall at 5000. Car weight, motor TQ, trans gearing, rear gear, tire size....all play a part.
Yes, some "BIG" suppliers may have stuff ready to go and it works well...or good enough.
I will also agree.... if you have "similar" combos, one "shelf" unit may work well and should be fine.
A "5000" stall may or may not stall at 5000. Car weight, motor TQ, trans gearing, rear gear, tire size....all play a part.
Yes, some "BIG" suppliers may have stuff ready to go and it works well...or good enough.
I will also agree.... if you have "similar" combos, one "shelf" unit may work well and should be fine.
Last edited by Doug G; 07-11-2017 at 07:50 PM.
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I not finished yet so I don't know the exact numbers it'll run until I get out with it. 416c.i. LS3 on e85, 13.3:1 SCR, Cam Motion LLSR, AFR 260 heads, Holley hi ram 105mm, going to start with a set of REM polished 4.30's , I think 9.50's 140 ish is very possible for this car, a little less than 3100 with driver, this is a track only car.
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I not finished yet so I don't know the exact numbers it'll run until I get out with it. 416c.i. LS3 on e85, 13.3:1 SCR, Cam Motion LLSR, AFR 260 heads, Holley hi ram 105mm, going to start with a set of REM polished 4.30's , I think 9.50's 140 ish is very possible for this car, a little less than 3100 with driver, this is a track only car.
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I not finished yet so I don't know the exact numbers it'll run until I get out with it. 416c.i. LS3 on e85, 13.3:1 SCR, Cam Motion LLSR, AFR 260 heads, Holley hi ram 105mm, going to start with a set of REM polished 4.30's , I think 9.50's 140 ish is very possible for this car, a little less than 3100 with driver, this is a track only car.
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I not finished yet so I don't know the exact numbers it'll run until I get out with it. 416c.i. LS3 on e85, 13.3:1 SCR, Cam Motion LLSR, AFR 260 heads, Holley hi ram 105mm, going to start with a set of REM polished 4.30's , I think 9.50's 140 ish is very possible for this car, a little less than 3100 with driver, this is a track only car.
I had a 13.5 to 1 402 with the cathedral 240 ET head, healthy Hyd. roller in it, with a stock gearset Th400 and 4.10 at 3600 it went 10.50 like clockwork... at 3100 I'm sure it would have been knocking on the 9 second zone. This combo was restricted as well with the fast 90/90 I had on it as well, we could see it on the dyno hit a wall at 6500 and just not make any more power but carry it flat to 7200... if I had put a single plane intake on it like the CID one that's out it likely would have made another 30 hp, and would have peaked much higher..... I had a9 inch 5200 behind this as it was going to see spray.... with an na I would have put an 8 inch in it, probably picked up a couple tenths just from that.... fwiw.
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That's likely going to want a 5200-5400 rpm 8 inch converter, depending where it makes peak tq. If I had to throw a dart and start somewhere... that's where I would start.
I had a 13.5 to 1 402 with the cathedral 240 ET head, healthy Hyd. roller in it, with a stock gearset Th400 and 4.10 at 3600 it went 10.50 like clockwork... at 3100 I'm sure it would have been knocking on the 9 second zone. This combo was restricted as well with the fast 90/90 I had on it as well, we could see it on the dyno hit a wall at 6500 and just not make any more power but carry it flat to 7200... if I had put a single plane intake on it like the CID one that's out it likely would have made another 30 hp, and would have peaked much higher..... I had a9 inch 5200 behind this as it was going to see spray.... with an na I would have put an 8 inch in it, probably picked up a couple tenths just from that.... fwiw.
I had a 13.5 to 1 402 with the cathedral 240 ET head, healthy Hyd. roller in it, with a stock gearset Th400 and 4.10 at 3600 it went 10.50 like clockwork... at 3100 I'm sure it would have been knocking on the 9 second zone. This combo was restricted as well with the fast 90/90 I had on it as well, we could see it on the dyno hit a wall at 6500 and just not make any more power but carry it flat to 7200... if I had put a single plane intake on it like the CID one that's out it likely would have made another 30 hp, and would have peaked much higher..... I had a9 inch 5200 behind this as it was going to see spray.... with an na I would have put an 8 inch in it, probably picked up a couple tenths just from that.... fwiw.