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Old 02-20-2018, 08:37 AM
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To be honest for what it would cost for the very best HCI I don't think it would be worth it. Then you'll spend a few bucks on tweaking things on the intake side. Plus im not sure how much more weight you could pull out. But even with all this said and done I really don't think you'll knock a half second off at this level. That's just my opinion
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like mike asked, whats the weight without driver?
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Damn quick car.! What kind of power / weight are you pushing ?
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Id up the compression and run e85 or race gas
Old 02-22-2018, 09:21 AM
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The only way to run 9's (all motor) then is to sell your heads and intake. You need to up the compression to at least 11 1/2 to 1, great flowing heads, big cam, 102 intake ported, 102 T.B. Put a solid roller cam in it,and rockers, and lighten the car to at least 3,000 lbs.
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I have run a best of 10.04, you will not get there by cutting any corners on a 346.
Old 02-22-2018, 10:30 PM
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I think a Mamo ported MSD would be better than the fast with a solid roller
Old 02-23-2018, 10:31 AM
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https://www.holley.com/products/inta.../parts/300-123
This would be a good choice for a solid roller but then you would need a custom cowell hood.
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http://www.speedinc.com/4-prostock1313-ram-air.html
Old 02-23-2018, 10:36 AM
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lots of options for more horsepower
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Like one person already said a 10.49@129 means you need to work on your 60’. You have atleast 2-3 tenths in that alone.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Great running car!!! What is the weight? I would attack the intake for sure(MAf,Intake manifold and throttle body. Won't give you 4 tenths but lets see the weight..
I'll have to get a weight, I would guess 3k with me in it. I was checking out the fast 102 intake but that looks like around a 2k upgrade.
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Get a used one.
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You might want to look into ITB and solid roller cam. Something like 237/245-113+3 on a LLSR and then raise the limiter to 7300. Run 650/630 lift or thereabouts. Edit -- On the exhaust, have you considered going to an X pipe?

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Old 03-02-2018, 07:39 PM
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Switch back to a 26" tire. I lost about 1/10 when I went from 275/50's to 275/60's

I'm running a 12 bolt with 4:10s

Dump the catback as mentioned above. You'll drop 35-45 pounds and pick up 10 Hp

Look at little things. Are you running titanium retainers on your springs? Have you upgraded to 11/32 pushrods? Get ride of the MAF and SD tune it or at least build a 100mm MAF, you can do that for less then $150.

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I'm back at it! Lol I have pulled the car out of storage, put a 100mm maf on it, and removed the cat back. I took the car to the track and got two back to back 10.39s at 130.5, but the car is shifting into overdrive 10yards or so before the finish line. I'm taking the car back to the tuner to raise the shift points (currently 6600 rpms) a cpl hundred rpms and we'll see what that does.
If this doesn't get closer to a low 10.3 I agree the motor will more than likely need to be cammed differently.
Thanks for the help!
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Old 09-09-2020, 06:55 PM
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Concentrate on weight reduction. What all have you done to lose weight?
I would also weigh it if you can. I bet it is heavier than you think.
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Very stout running car for sure. Definitely ought to be proud of current times. A little more weight off would really help trying to get that 9.99 as others have said. You may be at the point where you have to do wallet mods for weight it sounds like if your at 3k raceweight already. How much slip are you seeing on your converter on the top end?
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Have you tried locking up the converter? Maybe try shaving the heads and thinner head gasket.
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Originally Posted by Firebirdmuscle
Very stout running car for sure. Definitely ought to be proud of current times. A little more weight off would really help trying to get that 9.99 as others have said. You may be at the point where you have to do wallet mods for weight it sounds like if your at 3k raceweight already. How much slip are you seeing on your converter on the top end?
ms109 would be an easy way for him to pick up also, would need to add more fuel in the maf table.


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